From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 20 20:19:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25596D6B for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF529134D for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r5KKJXnV090576; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r5KKJWYG090573; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Allan Jude Subject: Re: RFC: Handbook Storage chapter RAID section removal In-Reply-To: <51C351FF.5090502@allanjude.com> Message-ID: References: <51C351FF.5090502@allanjude.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:19:36 -0000 On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2013-06-20 14:20, Warren Block wrote: >> The Handbook Storage chapter has a section called RAID that describes >> the use of ccd(4) and ataraid(4). >> >> ccd(4) is obsolete, having been replaced several times by newer >> drivers. I think ataraid(4) has been supplanted by graid(8). >> >> So I propose to remove that RAID section entirely. Yes, people may >> still be using these devices. But we should not be recommending them >> to new users. >> >> If you have a reason that should not be done, speak now. > > Since gmirror and graid are already covered in the GEOM chapter, that > probably makes sense. Organizationally, there seems to be a mix of where > the information is. Should all of the GEOM stuff be in the Storage > chapter, or should GEOM stuff like gbde and geli be moved from Storage > to GEOM? Long-term, I'd like to reorganize by subject and try to eliminate some of the duplication we have now. Before that, it would be good to trim as much obsolete material as possible.