From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 14 16:40:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0A7CBC for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-x22b.google.com (mail-qe0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E56925D4 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f43.google.com with SMTP id nc12so5439927qeb.30 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tvEBaN2sRMlI/vsIerewTpoQEs3zWr5k95AVqPzxsy4=; b=CUds8mphlKA2l590atbzN9MZvlBTOSKMlpyMA0UdKtv1aQl1c6RP9iu4hDcJnErzvh OUpuhF3WsKObptQYXs3eky9RxhMJiQc02G0vjqd9ZVrG4TqDSQrqJobb7jZnS1AMvDCc IPds2MipKX/gOCI3y9zhPWCfox0OZx61wwDdevHUF0ZzRQUAY2zgmJbBqdNlXYKBqhUM EeLQBB75y0E3NkDrnt0FM/ZsiZ99iaervZjd8kXuAQJWdvs8sbp92OA2DNzhuJBq3UXt dKp9nlXeVjzoRWSxRUGG+V5T2b3KJwy1RXVKLXYzJw5wLID6bUd1oheDw0o1Dehq6+7P hwXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.161.83 with SMTP id q19mr3614588qax.92.1381768858351; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.49.16.170 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <525C1D1C.9050708@gmail.com> References: <525A6831.5070402@gmail.com> <20131014133953.58f74659@gumby.homeunix.com> <525C1D1C.9050708@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:40:58 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: m2XQfX3L0WKvVj709LdkLlD-wBA Message-ID: Subject: Re: SU+J Lost files after a power failure From: CeDeROM To: David Demelier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:40:59 -0000 On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, David Demelier wrote: > Why? SU+J is enabled by default. Isn't the purpose of a journaled file > system to ensure that any bad shutdown will protect data? > > On GNU/Linux, on Windows you will not require anything else to recover > your data. > > I don't want to tweak the filesystem or use something different that the > default, as it is the default it's the *warranty* that it is the correct > way to protect data for new FreeBSD user's installations IMHO. Agree :-) SU+J also seems to cause problems on SSD drives: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2013-February/016420.html -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info