From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 31 23:02:02 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A582F4A9B for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 23:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com (mail-wm1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Zv2J3HX5z47jS for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 23:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id u13so9032415wml.1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2020 16:02:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=iMHGWz3n1aXkqiaiJ/qyre4KbTCmrnH6h7YIQlxwJc4=; b=LDiWB3l+ofpKcAB6c0VFabbQmUPs7ApQGzkqb5RtDXLZPSxZFpKOwVXaX1TiMPvosP D+SxFw7qfzl6Iry1Nf8hQ7IrGS+oJOpzbCWbgqE8v/U1n8y+UmjCzZnv97Htf3jOd5JJ LwVxiE1jI2Adk1PS864Cd0XyxEnPBZTlJB5R2JHI4+T4BYR4z4l1j9wPuXDCN4siVcPG Mmewt9Kn36wHR52owZt/7Sv4vTqh5E6bgPJ3bHa5zZRzoWhiYgWQzRVDJHNvKYD3x9Vw sy9FujHtGATa424IDzxrwUQ7ZgNbGtmCEfxjPCYu5LT5KS/5xR5CjpduJnXS6Ht6LRbS CV3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=iMHGWz3n1aXkqiaiJ/qyre4KbTCmrnH6h7YIQlxwJc4=; b=cpyVWT2gjYoPwj5w5pZwyMTKkp82obt8O5aE3+hBDhWXhbtHYt3Z3DOX/FzAB+HJYF lCXqSyE6u475nfH5eaObUAMUC7t5uoj1l74LUTixkQMG1Ro0j7XnluVEPypQ0DRxmU9v f5HQGEKCCl4eAZgXBslqwm0beOHyhKKlhhUyISMXs6zb8zE4SAtuqrZQI77ObDt1t3H+ thdFpsJv4LnIR9Gy/E1NIsmAinrsT9vQUs4RuIanV2bndWQzb9wMiCwxEaBtwoyrOZKW VD1yxT19rM0AX4dNfCsSFS0OVi6I5nLmiv0vdmnjQfYdrRRSRo68vXUNwwZkvCZJuwbH aXPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530wQK4PCxO0gZDolftnn4nOTP0PaRG7Oqzykbu/MWXyJbFb8aCY zIX8RMCg+KwPeY8TE3nLPF3ZJ8XfWkoTyhPCNphTUA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwzR6LbZOliP/1eAmxrXANAjA+lUJPfjwUhy+9dvPwRsVxEC7UxqhPLfxtDHUR5uGQ0pUa7HU9uqfNDPNwZJ9Y= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cc82:: with SMTP id p2mr18663001wma.101.1590966118556; Sun, 31 May 2020 16:01:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200531214105.2caed717.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200531231731.85ee6d3d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200601001117.f7075d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200601001117.f7075d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 01:01:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Keyboard and mouse not working after X update To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Zv2J3HX5z47jS X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=LDiWB3l+; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::333) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.74 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.03)[-1.029]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.964]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::333:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.44)[-0.445]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 23:02:02 -0000 On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:11 AM Polytropon wrote: > What is the correct driver for X for "modesetting", and how > can I easily verify it has been loaded? It is part of the Xorg I guess. Make sure you are in the video group. Use no config launch startx and it should auto configure. Well thing changed a bit and we just need to put some time for that to work no other way ;-) > > You may > > try the old drivers with the older hardware but I found them > > problematic. > > I don't want "problematic", I want "it works", and it doesn't > matter if "new works" or "old works"; FreeBSD has been able > to deliver "it works" for decades. :-) Well there are some issues but I moved away from macOS to FreeBSD looking at the direction of global changes and the way it goes does not look promising. Seems like we are the folks to "make things work" now. BSD still seems to be "the rational island" in this "sand castle world" and I can clearly see that I also need to add my bricks to make it work well thus my focus here :-) > > I > > also use hald and dbus. > > Accepting outdated Linux stuff to make FreeBSD graphics > work again doesn't sound as if it was the right thing to > do... ;-) Yea, but this is my _work_station_ so my main focus is to get the results in a shorter and shorter time spans.. not always I have lots of time to play and fix things anymore.. the world gone mad :-( After I finish a bigger project around August I will get back to E + Wayland on FreeBSD. I am working now and testing the new EFL+Enlightenment (still in Xorg mode). The E community is very helpful and responsive that also use FreeBSD and sometimes offer patches really quickly. Still some work to make it production ready :-) > Many many moving parts. :-) "Change is good" man "root is obsolete" why do we even need those computers ;-) ;-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info