Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:41:18 -0400 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dhcpcd(8) into FreeBSD base Message-ID: <1650053f-bae7-435f-9bb7-f2d8cf3ebb7d@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <1188806329.62817.1750321263908@localhost> References: <e401671f-6a67-49ed-bc41-e8fbb9de27cb@www.fastmail.com> <CAPyFy2BackF0FshyjfV6qoOoJjFqiqcu%2BVxx9X_%2BRHpepOXTsw@mail.gmail.com> <18ff2d4772a.129dde187836962.5411001908566459400@marples.name> <bf3f1d62-70bb-4191-82ae-d8c9358d0b47@denninger.net> <1188806329.62817.1750321263908@localhost>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 6/19/2025 04:21, Ronald Klop wrote:=
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I don't know the details about your setup, but I tried dhcpcd in
my network last few months and I encountered that it:<br>
<br>
- runs fine in a 14.X jail on a 14.X machine (RPI3B) for both IP4
and IP6 =F0=9F=91=8D<br>
- it does not work well on a 14.X jail on a 15.x machines. (RPI4)<b=
r>
<br>
The symptoms look a lot like what you describe. Sometimes it got
an address and a day later it was gone again. Restarting sometimes
helped, often didn't change anything.<br>
Up to the point that I started reading to code of dhcpcd and
encountered that it writes a line in the log about getting a lease
and the next statement was sending a packet out on the network and
I never see that packet in tcpdump.<br>
<br>
Anyway on the RPI3 I still use it. On the RPI4 I went back to
dhclient + SLAAC after I put a lot of time in tcpdumping and
testing. Maybe it is just that 14 userland doesn't match enough
with 15 kernel to do BPF/dhcp. But than again.... with dhclient it
works fine.<br>
<br>
I didn't run dhcpcd yet on the host OS yet as I was first testing
it in the VNET jails.<br>
<br>
Just my 2 cents.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ronald.</blockquote>
<p>The issue I have here is that when the other end gets "big mad" I
have to call them to restore IPv6.=C2=A0 Before dhcpcd I was runnin=
g
both built-in DHCP from FreeBSD and dhcp6c to get the IPv6 stuff
and had been for a very long time.=C2=A0 The complexity there is th=
at I
need to do things when an address is bound (or lost) and that gets
considerably more-complex with using the two daemons rather than
the one.</p>
<p>I can try to go back to the other setup but if it gets big mad at
me again then I get to call them again.... :-)=C2=A0 Since it never=
clears on its own once it happens this is especially vexing in
terms of figuring out precisely what is going on.</p>
<p>I have a suspicion that it is the ip4ll option and a slow
response that may be involved here (and ip4ll defaults=C2=A0<i>on,=C2=
=A0</i>which
might be a very poor choice), and perhaps not "technically" the
ISPs fault in that its entirely possible their ONT comes ready on
the customer-side interface (thus the gateway thinks the line is
up) before the fiber-side has completed ranging and thus it is not
entirely up and provisioned.=C2=A0 In that case dhcpcd is going to =
send
a request that goes into a black hole and, having gotten no reply
within a couple of seconds it does the ip4ll thing.</p>
<p>If THAT is what's making it mad (its seeing reserved address
packets that are never routable coming from me) then my turning it
off may fix it, but I don't know.</p>
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