From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 25 8:50:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F85037B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:49:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 509BF18F5; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10018F3; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:49:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:49:17 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Jeff Lasman Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking In-Reply-To: <3C50E062.F405F343@nobaloney.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Intel or Kingston. Stay away from SMC/Realtek and 3Com. Also > > asking questions like this on -questions will yield better results. :) > > I'm absolutely willing to believe you, Rick. Can you tell us why you > feel that way, though? Which part? The nics, or asking in -questions? For the first part I've built, 100's of computers using every version of Windows, FreeBSD since 2.2.6, DOS, Novel, Lantastic, Banyan, Linux, and even Solaris on Intel. SMC, Realtek, and 3Com have consistently been the bad/troublesome cards. In fact I recently was willing to give SMC another chance, mostly because I needed one now. After three days of playing with it, I replaced it with an older Intel card, and had the system up and running with no problems within 5 minutes. 3Com... is just junk. :) The 509c and the 905B chipsets are the worst NIC chipsets ever. They don't confirm to standards very well in the first place. They tend to be like USR modems, they work great if you're attaching to the same model on the other end. As for the 2nd part, -newbies was created with the cavet that ALL technical questions be asked in the -questions group. The rational behind that was that people using FreeBSD tended to use it in production. -newbies are by definition new and may accidently give the wrong answer to a question causing lots of headaches for that person. If you all ready Sue's monthly posting or http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html you'll see way down at the bottom it explains what -newbies is for. Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message