From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 14:28:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6843D128C01 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46dgR62X7Sz3y9f for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3B6E4E660 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:28:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: The support for AMD graphics and how freebsd hardware support To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190925034746.GA2312@whitehouse.gov> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:28:49 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dgR62X7Sz3y9f X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:28:51 -0000 On 2019-09-25 01:04, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:56 PM wrote: > >> developed >> Reply-To: >> X-Priority: 1 >> Importance: high >> Disposition-Notification-To: >> X-Confirm-Reading-To: >> Return-Receipt-To: >> Hello, >> 1. Does freebsd current and freebsd stable 12 fully support all features >> of AMD Radeon RX 5700, Vega and RX 500 series including the hardware video >> decoding features? >> > > AMD Radeon support is probably the weakest of the three main GPU providers, > but someone else may be able to confirm the status of those particular > units. You would be far more likely to get information on X related issues > by sending to the x11@freebsd.org mailing list. > >> >> 2. From website, https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#AMD_Graphics, it says >> "Update drm-stable to Linux 4.16 for FreeBSD 12.0". Does it mean freebsd >> hardware support or drivers are copied or translated from linux kernel >> codes? >> > > They are derived with minimal changes from the Linux code. FreeBSD has > kernel modules that provide kernel support. These modules are not part of > FreeBSD. They are GPL licensed, so are built as a port, drm-kmod and a > group of slave ports that are for specific kernel versions. > >> >> 3. How are freebsd hardware support really developed? In linux kernel >> mailing list, there are over 2,000 emails per day from hardware vendors >> such as Intel, AMD, Huawei, Samsung, Sony submitting patches or hardware >> drivers. What about BSD? I did not find any such equivalence in freebsd >> after googling. >> > > Only Nvidia provides any significant support for its products on FreeBSD > and, as a result, almost all other X code is identical or very nearly > identical to the Linux code. My impression, however, has always been that NVIDIA never provides substantial specifications of internals of their hardware (thus there is no way to write decent open source driver), and they provide only binary drivers which are accompanied by source code (to a degree kernel specific) of interface between binary driver and kernel (the last is what you compile against your kernel). Am I wrong or awfully outdated with my understanding? Thanks. Valeri > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++