From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 20 22:43:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B00516A4C0; Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-107-253.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.107.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3F743FEC; Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185D266D6A; Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B720A88; Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:43:01 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: deischen@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030921054301.GA40864@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030920175306.Q9576@znfgre.qbhto.arg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Doug Barton cc: current@freebsd.org cc: "M. Warner Losh" cc: h@schmalzbauer.de Subject: Re: ports and -current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 05:43:07 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:46:30AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > This is the longest ports freeze that I can remember I can only suppose that you haven't been paying attention to other release cycles, because this one is shorter than usual. > I wasn't > expecting it to last long. Not to change the subject, I thought > it would just be long enough to lay the tag. I don't think you > should label it as bad timing as much as asking why the freeze is > taking so long. The release schedule has been on the website for over a month, so again it looks like you were simply uniformed as to timing and duration of the release events. Daniel, I'm trying to be reasonable here, and I think my previous proposal achieves the ends we all want with a minimum of disruption to the various parties involved. Unfortunately I'm seeing a lot of heat from you and not a lot of discussion. Can we please try and work cooperatively? Kris --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/bTpkWry0BWjoQKURAin/AJ9DPpg9BOsvFlmYA5D7ATWuMKxyoQCg6fat b6w9u2bo2INs6jwaC+1HJ9M= =r+Ff -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C--