From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Nov 26 21:26:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11521 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:26:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [206.205.41.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11501 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:26:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA27500; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:25:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:25:32 -0500 (EST) From: ADRIAN Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: Artur Grabowski cc: Greg Lehey , Alicia da Conceicao , netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG, FreeBSD advocacy list , advocacy@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Merging Net/Free/Open-BSD together against Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26 Nov 1998, Artur Grabowski wrote: > ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes: > > > Sure, the kernel is defintely the hard part. How much divergence > > has there been in userland? I run OpenBSD on a sparc and I see a few > > things here and there. I wonder how feasible it would be to have a > > unified distribution with three possible kernel architectures, yet a > > unified userland? (He quickly ducks for cover.) As long as device files, > > filesystem and directory hierarchies were agreed to, it seems feasible. > > I have a standard reply to things that people always have good ideas about. > > "When are you ready?" > > Speaking about things doesn't improve reality in this case. If you want > something like this done you can: > - do it yourself. > - pay someone to do it. > - Convince someone to do it. > > Generating 1000 mails with good ideas won't write code. Sorry. > > I'm not picking at someone specific. It's a generic rant to all people that > can't stop talking about this. Either accept reality as it is or do something > about it. And filling peoples spools doesn't get anything done. Point taken. However, for such an initiative to succed, there ought to be a little discussion and buy-in from the exising developers. How many others would like to see a unified userland source tree? In about a month I will be in a situation to provide such diffs. I could also probably get a CVS server on a decent connection with disk. As you point out, people need to sign on, not just talk. So, again, who would like to participate on such a project, scanctioned by a *BSD core team, or not? The michanics of the process are fairly straight forward, but they are time intensive. Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message