From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 15 00:28:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966EA16A4E5; Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sippysoft.com (gk.360sip.com [72.236.70.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2591643D45; Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:28:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.92] (S0106000d3a2b2987.vc.shawcable.net [24.86.96.131] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by sippysoft.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6F0RxK3014752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <44B8366F.2030308@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:27:27 -0700 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Sippy Software, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dejan Lesjak References: <200607130024.18047.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> <44B740A5.6050709@FreeBSD.org> <200607141300.43547.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> In-Reply-To: <200607141300.43547.dejan.lesjak@ijs.si> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-U; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:28:04 -0000 Dejan Lesjak wrote: >> Therefore, I doubt that such "pull the trigger" approach is really going >> to work in this case. Some more gradual course is in due: with X11R6 >> being banned as a target for a new ports, with new GNOME version moving >> to the LOCALBASE and so on. > > I seem to have phrased my mail a bit weird. There's no intention of "pulling > the trigger", say tomorrow and pull the rug from under users' and > maintainers' feet. Of course we would like to do things gradually so to hurt > users and maintainers the least as possible. The mail was meant to indicate > the general direction of where we would like to go with X.org ports as far as > PREFIX is concerned, to prompt people to voice their > disagreements/agreements, and to find out how we can do it so as to cause as > little pain as possible. It should certainly not be viewed as "we plan to > import X.org 7 into ports next week and make /usr/local default prefix so > deal with it". If it sounded like that I do apologize. Yes, probably "Merging X11BASE to LOCALBASE" is not very good subject after all, seemingly what you are talking about is merely moving x.org 7.x bits and pieces from X11BASE into LOCALBASE, which should be fine. :) You should have mentioned that merging those two is a long term goal and it's not going to happen overnight, since that's what my first impression from the thread was. -Maxim