From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 24 13:42:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2930A37B40C for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from Millions.Ca (h24-79-52-254.sbm.shawcable.net [24.79.52.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E2643FAF for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stacy@Millions.Ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by Millions.Ca (8.11.1/8.9.3) id h1OLgkr76461 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:42:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from stacy@Millions.Ca) Received: from Cedar.Millions.Ca(192.168.64.8) via SMTP by mail-gw-0.millions.ca, id smtpdU76459; Mon Feb 24 14:42:43 2003 Received: from millions.ca (Bonsai.Millions.Ca [192.168.64.4]) by cedar.millions.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1OLgg3P065383 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:42:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from stacy@millions.ca) Message-ID: <3E5A91D2.70403@millions.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:42:42 -0700 From: Stacy Millions Organization: Millions Consulting Limited User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030206 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Maxtor Firewire Drives References: <200302240959.03513.wes@softweyr.com> <20030224103601.L22218-100000@steeltoe.niceboots.com> <20030224205811.GD85610@hal9000.halplant.com> <20030224210152.GC26172@pir.net> <3E5A8C67.7070805@mitre.org> In-Reply-To: <3E5A8C67.7070805@mitre.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Andresen wrote: > Peter Radcliffe wrote: > >> Andrew J Caines probably said: >> >>> At the rate ATA drives are going up in size and down in price, tape >>> seems >>> to be less and less of a cost-effective solution, both for drives and >>> media. >> >> >> >> If you only want one or two copies of things and be pretty careful >> about moving those copies to an offsite location. >> >> Personally I like having a long run of archived backups (I have >> backups going back about 4 years at this point), doing that with disk >> is not really cost effective. > > > Just out of curiousity, how many of your users come back after 4 years > asking for their deleted files? > In a previous life, I worked at a place were they expected to be able to restore files after 25 years. We had quite a collection of tape drives. Just before I left, we had started a data conversion project to convert the old tapes into newer media. It was getting too hard to maintain the old tape drivers (and computers, operating systems and backup software) that had been used over the last 25 years. My biggest problem with using disk space for backups is that you always have some pressing need for more disk space (but its just temporary :-) and your backup disk looks really appealing. -stacy -- If they keep lowering education standards and raising the price of gasoline, there are going to be a lot of stupid people walking around. Stacy Millions stacy@millions.ca Millions Consulting Limited To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message