From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Sep 22 23:28:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5C112F34D for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 23:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46c3YJ3X22z4Lyr for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 23:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Sun, 22 Sep 2019 23:28:33 +0000 Received: from wms0-eu-central.migadu.com (wms0-eu-central.migadu.org [139.162.159.86]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 9D46E73D-0B69-4FDE-825E-D253D986E596.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Sun, 22 Sep 2019 23:28:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 23:28:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: RainLoop/1.12.1 From: greg@unrelenting.technology Message-ID: Subject: Re: Xorg with evdev input devices To: "Vasily Postnicov" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <300f65b7469c608ad4cd32a9ad6c41d6@unrelenting.technology> <320f3ff12f7aeb4eed823ea6e5eee70a@unrelenting.technology> <81039c4b5ae0c2d4bd97dcc07852e279@unrelenting.technology> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=GLurHSeCWlWHghReWfoTgMOsffaEJ/4DAsizaIomZOc=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=aGFvDmbl/n39uBlAN4tjREIsFKYZ95KZYZ36zM5FDNFscnJxBs61snxUMzXvOqTXPQT+FrgSdTRzT661LmTueAcGpwD3UOWfmMADExh3FHmw5L5pbWtJxb/o8ApRroJ7kaCFOVN2ydfPQx2QNhNVRo9Zc9gwhJq9bRYhso38LFY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46c3YJ3X22z4Lyr X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=aGFvDmbl; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.56 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[63.223.121.91.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.56)[ip: (-9.85), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-4.41), asn: 16276(1.44), country: FR(-0.00)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 23:28:38 -0000 September 22, 2019 10:39 PM, "Vasily Postnicov" = wrote:=0A=0A> My experience report without xwayland:=0A> =0A> 1) Most of = my 3.5 games work, including RtCW, doom3, quake (vkquake and darkplaces),= instead,=0A> eduke32 and xonotic. Quake2 (don't remember which one) does= n't work (it does not use sdl2)=0A=0AYeah. OpenMW is the funniest, it wor= ks as a native app (SDL2), but currently requires Xwayland to load becaus= e some silly dependency does X stuff.=0A=0A> 2) Many gtk3 applications wo= rk, but not emacs and iridium (last I heard, chrome does not support=0A> = wayland).=0A=0AAFAIK, Chromium is not a GTK application anymore (it used = to be in the early versions, but now it's all custom stuff).=0A=0AChromiu= m OS actually supports Wayland as a *server* :D but google is still not a= ccepting the patch for Chromium *on* Wayland.=0A=0Ahttps://aur.archlinux.= org/packages/chromium-ozone-wayland-git/ is a Linux package with that pat= ch.=0A=0ASomeone could import that to FreeBSD ports but seems like most o= f us who could do it are Firefox fans, haha.=0A=0A> 3) All qt5 apps do no= t work with the following message:=0A> QWaylandShmBuffer: failed: Permiss= ion denied=0A=0Ahmm, qt5 has always worked fine for me (with QT_QPA_PLATF= ORM=3Dwayland), since the early days when evdev has just appeared on Free= BSD=E2=80=A6=0A=0AYou can use truss to see where it's trying to allocate = the buffer.=0A=0A> So, thank you for your time helping me solve things. I= think, I'll stay for a while with X)) IMHO,=0A> sway is not as useful as= stumpwm. And I can replace iridium with firefox, but I cannot replace=0A= > emacs (not with vim, anyway ;). As for qt5, there is no much info on go= ogle, that is strange.=0A=0AJoin the dark side, use Wayfire =E2=80=94 we = have wobbly windows and desktop cube animations, like in the good old day= s of Compiz :D