From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 18 09:01:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35B3E274 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD8CEE65 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([78.49.236.143]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LaJWs-1Wpqmf45Ne-00m2jh for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:01:04 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost6.localdomain6 [IPv6:::1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E125823DA2F for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:01:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <53280B4E.3020808@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:01:02 +0100 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Something related to C and C++ References: <20140317103830.53c42ade@X220.alogt.com> <611B8DE5-F593-4574-96AB-0965CA7EDF33@yahoo.com> <5326D093.90308@yahoo.com> <39562806-80F4-4D4C-BAFD-20DCB537B303@yahoo.com> <20140318090352.403e6f1f@X220.alogt.com> <5327FF2A.7080301@gmx.de> <062365AC-AD84-4D07-9812-C35858BD9B01@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <062365AC-AD84-4D07-9812-C35858BD9B01@yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Ni7dJi/v7qxalwrQdnlcZ5gdMDuT6ZJLztKmSK6XbhRNp/fROr3 8QcEybjpK5LAul9vqd0JKM5etyxZHbvtCD22QQ/po/lPGSf5SbFEtHy8C9OwhyRGuZmL5sa wqFGdMSeyPVHgVNDggkkg1vucjhC8qMz0ePsvV4QKcGm/0uqwzUmirmatLVe6bgC+JCQJwv UcZTxUq7gR4FSe3w+djfg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:01:13 -0000 Am 18.03.2014 09:49, schrieb by: > Thanks for your kind advice : ) > Actually, I bought <> not mainly for improve my C++ skills, maybe for improve my English : ) > I did some practices in C before, and I find C is a very expressive language these days, cause sometimes when I programming, I just feel like speaking! Well, C gets long-winded if you start going beyond focused Unix utilities and on towards larger applications, because it is not expressive enough. Be sure not to confuse C and C++ and not to see C++ as C with iostreams or std::string added... In the end, with C you tend to write many lines of code for what you will write in a few in C++. That's not initial learning, though, but once applications get bigger. (Some may see this as violation of Unix principles, but sometimes industry in-house software requirements to not map entirely to Unix paradigms ;-) so let's avoid bike-shedding.)