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Date:      Mon, 12 Jan 2015 20:59:50 -0600 (CST)
From:      Greg Rivers <gcr+freebsd-security@tharned.org>
To:        Jonathan Anderson <jonathan@FreeBSD.org>, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@MIT.EDU>,  Ondra Knezour <knezour@weboutsourcing.cz>, Zoran Kolic <zkolic@sbb.rs>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Securing SSH
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.11.1501122038470.9102@angus.tharned.org>
In-Reply-To: <54B45084.102@weboutsourcing.cz>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.11.1501111913310.9102@angus.tharned.org> <54B45084.102@weboutsourcing.cz>

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
> I can't comment much on the elliptic-curve stuff, but I think it's a bit 
> of a stretch to say that SHA-1 isn't safe for use in a KDF.
>
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> The author also appears to not understand the difference between 
> single-DES and triple-DES, so I would expect the value of that posting 
> to be only as a brainstormed list of ideas to consider for further 
> analysis.
>
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Ondra Knezour wrote:
> You may also want to consult The applied crypto hardening book draft at 
> https://bettercrypto.org/ if you are looking for some "instant" security 
> inspiration.
>
Thank you all for your informative replies.  I suspected that the article 
was a bit naive.  Like many, I don't have a deep knowledge of 
cryptography, so I appreciate your input.  I thought it was worthwhile to 
ask and perhaps generate some discussion about FreeBSD's default SSH 
configuration.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Zoran Kolic wrote:
> In fact, you got answer on openbsd misc list.
> 
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> Can you point to that for the rest of us? I'd rather not wade in 
> openbsd-misc....
> 
It took a lot of searching to find, but I suspect he's talking about 
<http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.tech/40343/focus=219119 >, which 
fails parts 3 through 6 of the Boy Scout Law.

-- 
Greg



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