From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Thu Feb 14 15:00:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A70414D7376; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 363897518F; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EFB6A16FCA; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:00:27 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: rgrimes@freebsd.org Cc: Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable-12@freebsd.org, Dmitry Morozovsky , Cy Schubert Subject: Re: svn commit: r344051 - in stable/12/sbin: newfs tunefs Message-ID: <20190214150027.GB10138@lonesome.com> References: <201902121631.x1CGVqWE076720@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201902121631.x1CGVqWE076720@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 363897518F X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.29)[-0.294,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.64)[0.642,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.27)[ipnet: 18.220.0.0/14(0.06), asn: 16509(-1.33), country: US(-0.07)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lonesome.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.924,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[11.6.222.18.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.soaustin.net]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[8]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:18.220.0.0/14, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 15:00:31 -0000 On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:31:52AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > If all of our process was better documented and laid down > we would have less of this type of discussion on a much less > frequent basis. And much more discussion about how the process is over-specified, onerous, doesn't take care of every edge case, and so forth. I speak from personal knowledge of trying to deal with this during my several years on portmgr@. IMVVHO rules-lawyering is toxic to a volunteer project. It was enough to cause me to walk away from what I had taken on. mcl