From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 09:41:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C71216A41C for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:41:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cz@aegisnet.biz) Received: from a.mx.aegisnet.de (a.mx.aegisnet.de [213.238.36.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1E943D1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:41:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cz@aegisnet.biz) Received: (qmail 10048 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 09:42:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.aegisnet.biz) ([213.238.36.211]) (envelope-sender ) by a.mx.aegisnet.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jun 2005 09:42:00 -0000 Received: from 213.39.175.208 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cz@aegisnet.biz) by www.aegisnet.biz with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:42:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4116.213.39.175.208.1119519720.squirrel@www.aegisnet.biz> In-Reply-To: <200506221914.j5MJEnHf039939@fire.jhs.private> References: Message from Vulpes Velox of "Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:51:54 CDT." <20050622115154.25e1ffbe@vixen42.local.lan> <200506221914.j5MJEnHf039939@fire.jhs.private> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:42:00 +0200 (CEST) From: "Carsten Zimmermann" To: "Julian H. Stacey" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Use send-pr. Use chat@. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:41:42 -0000 Hi Julian, I wouldn't agree. When you consider the sheer amount of unresolved PRs, I have a problem with adding another one to that list. All the more when I don't know that my PR is backed by a greater part of the community. Only the fact that I can handle send-pr and I find me somebody with commit-rights doesn't make my contribution worthy. Instead, I would encourage people to ask whether there is support for their issue. Of course, this doesn't apply to obvious bugs. On the other hand, I wish people would realize sooner when a topic has been enough talked about. To summarize and put together your statement and mine: think before you act ;) Carsten Julian H. Stacey sagte: >> I feel the handbook could be made clearer in some areas, but I >> believe it is good in general. > > ( This Not directed at sender above, so sender's name omitted, but the > above > is a mild example of much worse noise from other hollow vessels on this > list. > If it doesn't help practical advocacy, a posting belongs to > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org , not advocacy@ , please more subscribe chat@ ) > > Before posting to advocacy@ eg: > "I think ... FreeBSD should .... blah, wheeze, drone ...." > Ask yourself: "When Did I Last Contribute Anything To FreeBSD ?" > > Please DO improve doc/ src/ ports/ www/ ... > create an improved version of the original master & then use diff & > send-pr. > Non programmers contribute patches for doc/ & www/ > > Consider the gnats receipt from send-pr your licence to post advocacy@ > (I sent a send-pr (re. man cvs yesterday), so I'm `paid up' for this one > :-) > > Go for it, send one ! man send-pr ; send-pr -- Carsten Zimmermann mailto:cz@aegisnet.biz Tel.: +49-(0)40-69790485 Aegis:Net IT-Dienstleistungen Wasmannstr. 39 22307 Hamburg http://www.aegisnet.biz Fax: +49-(0)40-69797010