From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 13 12:07:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35D9DE77 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA04A1E03 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wizk4 with SMTP id k4so195575466wiz.1 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 05:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxnitro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pQwD6A642IXDjNYjd5N2Yah2/VMNVZNF7hguMxEdDQA=; b=krK/cD9oIOBwiuevoVECYxHa/3yMSPiQRFAw2gOuEv6TuhYWZJ+UwMCyd6pBOD4ljO 51+BCzkKk+ojHI6J86BNir78+doNC0lLC4eGLsoVs+8FMSGEBhAFDsgisBOEoiP5pKwY hRyEOHtk8aoX5Qzu6d70v5VftBlA3uErda0Hw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pQwD6A642IXDjNYjd5N2Yah2/VMNVZNF7hguMxEdDQA=; b=Zmh4EK/BYd5LXuUjR+65HpObwl/O6r+bm5ExBG7mPczLyLt/Qgqee/cGFbw3BVMFfB gmV9HlUAbmW+Dkm9ykMTRdYqhihaLrvh7fIM0BMhbGslQEw0QrmtkRhMRPGNYLvl36vF Kvjgg+yiW2i2XniYlo7/Z/jvYk8u8+zoX/irtvwhv3CWw0ZUEbXg2l7vGeBdRr7na3w6 k1BJyVuL3ZrIvxgvn8s9RwQajdqpJqlzZydddXh5rVN02efGBjk2panIpw/Tl3ncBTmC cJxt6Nox+iCF1jSoRgtDv0tQQlWU5WHTUiPVlf2oJysCqPo87kkx/ZfY93oFb5VXDNdc ryaw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmX3A94xOyAQ8oLuKfGH5UmaXYUJxNZkWKJT4ctOAnMY5hHigacB19a3orOsYWGAjtWMVQt MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.9.6 with SMTP id v6mr39698965wja.13.1431518875711; Wed, 13 May 2015 05:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.95.65 with HTTP; Wed, 13 May 2015 05:07:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55510974.1090703@delphij.net> References: <201505090820.t498Kj6Q040594@svn.freebsd.org> <5550F113.1090306@delphij.net> <55510974.1090703@delphij.net> Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 13:07:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r385864 - head/security/vuxml From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" To: d@delphij.net Cc: Mathieu Arnold , Xin LI , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 12:07:58 -0000 On 11 May 2015 at 20:56, Xin Li wrote: > Well, what I have overlooked is that * means "infinitely small" > (arguably, * is a poor symbol for that meaning, but it was in the > documentations for quite some time), not "any" (as one would expect) > in the ports' version numbering system. > > In our system: > > * < 0 > * < a1 > * < r1 > > While, e.g.: > > a1 < 0 > a1 < r1 > r1 < 0 > > I also attempted some alternatives, but they failed: > > 2.* < 2.a1 > 2 > 2.a1 > 2 = 2.0 > > Basically, 0 have the same meaning of what we expect in normal > numbering system, while we added additional concept like a, r (both < > 0), and in order to catch these new concepts, we invented * and lived > with that for a decade. > > I don't see a easy solution here, unfortunately: we can't simply > remove the a, r concepts because some software vendors don't issue > formal release for very long time, and we really need some symbols to > represent <0 numbers. I agree it can certainly be confusing, but fixing probably worse right now... and yes, software developers use very interesting versioning schemes... Perhaps a workaround can be for future entries to suggest discourage use of "*", unless really needed, to reduce confusion? I suspect a number of the old entries could work with .0, but going back now and finding out is a lot of not very useful work. -- Simon L. B. Nielsen