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Date:      Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:03:58 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc:        Donald Burr <dburr@poboxes.com>, ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 8 days until 2.2.5...  Administrative notices.
Message-ID:  <199710151603.KAA11877@rocky.mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <199710151416.KAA17656@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
References:  <9710150749.AA14643@bragg> <XFMail.971015020727.dburr@POBoxes.com> <199710151416.KAA17656@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>

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[ Mega-reduction of Cc line ]

> > Getting foo.tar.gz (380k/1522k), 25% done, 3.6 K/sec, 0:18 remaining...
> 
> > The k/sec figure would be useful to make sure you're getting the most ouf
> > or your modem (or to brag about your high speed internet connection), and
> > the time remaining is would be very useful for deciiding whether you want
> > to sit there and wait for the port to download, or if you want to abort
> > it).
> 
> Except that the way TCP works, they are both totally bogus,

No, they *can* be totally bogus, but most of the time they are a *great*
approximation of what is happening.

> particularly in the presence of even a small packet loss rate.

With small and/or big packet loss, you can still get a pretty good
'average' rate.  Think like a user who needs feedback and not like a
scientist.  Scientists need hard numbers, users will settle for
approximations.


Nate - The user who likes approximate download times and K/sec fields....



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