From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 3 04:59:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F087D16A4CE for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 04:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28A543D49 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2004 04:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rperry4@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-4.250.48.11.dial1.weehawken1.level3.net ([4.250.48.11]) by albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1C36Az-00071S-00; Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:59:54 -0700 Message-ID: <4137FAEE.8050805@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 01:02:38 -0400 From: Bob Perry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040814 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Paley References: <20040808120059.AC05A16A4CE@hub.freebsd.org> <200409011809.47766.ben@spooty.net> In-Reply-To: <200409011809.47766.ben@spooty.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Are Autoconf253 and Automake15 Deprecated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 04:59:56 -0000 Ben Paley wrote: >On Sunday 08 August 2004 13:00, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > > >>Hi, >>I CVSup's my system (FreeBSD 4.9-p2 #0) early this morning and found >>the following in /usr/ports/CHANGES: >> >>20040803: >>AUTHOR: ade@FreeBSD.org >> As part of the ongoing autotools cleanup, devel/autoconf has been >> replaced with devel/autoconf253, and devel/automake with >>devel/automake15. Consumers of the various autotools knobs from >>bsd.autotools.mk should not notice any differences. This update completes >>the transition of autotools to true versioned packages (cf: tcl/tk) >> >>I just updated my watchlist in FreshPorts and it indicates that >>autoconf253 is >>deprecated and should be replaced with /devel/autoconf259. Similarly, >>automake15 should be replaced with devel/automake18. Is FreshPorts more >>current? If so, will the following correctly upgrade my system: >> >>portupgrade -rfo /devel/automake automake >>portupgrade -rfo /devel/autoconf autoconf >> >>Thanks for your assistance. >> >> > >I've been getting all this, and the various strategies I've tried haven't >worked. On the other hand nothing bad seems to have happened as a result, so >I still feel I'm on the lucky side... > >Did you ever work out how to sort this? I'd really appreciate your advice If >you've got anywhere. > >Cheers, >Ben > > > Hi Ben, I did receive a response from the author, ade@FreeBSD.org, which follows: Deprecated in this sense means that porters in general should be moving away from the older versions of automake/autoconf, to the newer ones, which will eventually get removed. Since I don't use portupgrade myself, I have no idea whether the above will work, but with all the entries added to /usr/ports/MOVED, a simple upgrade (which is essentially a no-op in terms of the version here), will migrate your system away from devel/autoconf -> devel/autoconf253 and devel/automake -> devel/automake15. As regards the freebsd-questions list, I really have no idea, since I don't subscribe to it due to the sheer volume of traffic it receives. Generally speaking, if you have a problem with a port, look at the MAINTAINER field, and send email to that individual and possibly also ports@FreeBSD.org, where people, such as myself, who are involved with day-to-day management of the ports/ tree tend to hang out. Regards, -aDe Based upon this response, the change in question seems to be more of a concern for porters and that an upgrade would make it a non-issue. I really don't have any additional advice to pass along at this time, but I'll will post this to the mailing list again and someone with a little more expertise may have the time to respond. I'm still not very comfortable playing the role of systems administrator and I am equally uncomfortable with FreeBSD. I lack too many of the basic skills at this point and issues like this just muddy the waters even more. I'm building a new pc (combo Suse/Windows) for my work and personal files and intend to keep my current FreeBSD box for future training/testing when time permits. Looking forward to the day I can use the phrase "simple upgrade." Regards, Bob -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0