From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 12:23:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from yowie.cc.uq.edu.au (yowie.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8B937B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:23:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from s337240@student.uq.edu.au) Received: from student.uq.edu.au (s337240@student.uq.edu.au [130.102.87.136]) by yowie.cc.uq.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA30865; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:23:06 +1000 (GMT+1000) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:23:06 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Trent Waddington To: Brett Glass Cc: Rahul Siddharthan , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , David Johnson , Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306130739.046aa370@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I claim that you are being misled by the "intellectual property" body of publisher cartels. This claim: "There is no possible justification for prohibiting the public from copying what it wants to copy." is not RMS's, it an assertion made during the drafting of the US constitution. If you _read_ the essay, you would know this. Copyright is not about compensating authors are the moral requirement of people to pay others for their work. That's the domain of intellectual property. No, copyright is all about encouraging authors to create _more_ works. It's a bribe. So if you write one book and you can honestly say that you dont have another book in you, then the only reason I have to pay for your work is to advertise the oppotunity to make a profit by writing books to other would be authors. If I dont think this will happen then I shouldn't pay you. Your romantic notions about authors being privledges beings that we should publically support is misled and results in greater harm to society than the outright elimination of copyright would. On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Brett Glass wrote: > At 12:55 PM 3/6/2001, Trent Waddington wrote: > > >need I quote the essay? Sheesh... > > > >"The copyright bargain that we have is no longer a good deal for the > >public, and it is time to revise it--time for the law to recognize the > >public benefit that comes from making and sharing copies." > > You're being misled by Stallman's rhetoric. > > Stallman CLAIMS -- disingenously -- at the start of his essay that he > is going to propose a bargain, but in fact what he proposes is not > any sort of bargain at all. Rather, he proposes a result which is > entirely favorable to him and his agenda. > > The key statement in Stallman's essay is this one: > > "There is no possible justification for prohibiting the public from > copying what it wants to copy." > > No restrictions on copying at all. No artists' rights. No compensation > for authors, composers, musicians, or programmers. In short, no copyright. > > --Brett > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message