From owner-freebsd-fs Thu Nov 4 15:25: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E06014DFD for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr07.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05335; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:24:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAA4faWAj; Thu Nov 4 16:23:50 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA20462; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:23:04 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199911042323.QAA20462@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: journaling UFS and LFS To: dg@root.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:23:04 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, Stephen.Byan@quantum.com, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199911012338.PAA07714@implode.root.com> from "David Greenman" at Nov 1, 99 03:38:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> >> Softupdates is definitely a viable solution however it does not address > >> >> several issues and the license is not a BSD license so it makes me > >> >> uncomfortable. > > > >The license issue is a Whistle thing. Talk to Julian and get him > >to pound on Doug Brent, preferrably before December 31st of this year. > > How is the softupdates license a Whistle thing? It seems to me that it is > a Kirk McKusick and Sun MicroSystems thing. Whistle requested the license so that Whistle could maintain an edge over the competition in the same product space. The duration that it is under the license in the source tree was negotiated between Whistle and Kirk for that reason. The purpose of the Whistle financial support for the implementation was technically to get rid of the UPS in the InterJet. I was one of the main evnagelists of this approach within Whistle, having worked on an FFS with Soft Updates implementation at the company I worked at prior to coming to work for Whistle. As I said, talk to Julian. I believe we (Whistle) can (and always intended to) release the code under UCB license after recouping R&D costs, and there there was in fact a contractually specified date for this happening. I don't currently have access to the contract. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message