From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 10:47:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F5016A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.infinithost.com (mail.infinithost.com [69.48.53.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE85043D2F for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:47:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charford-list@infinithost.com) Received: from [129.128.88.158] (port=51611 helo=[129.128.88.158]) by mail.infinithost.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.22) id 1AUVqi-000PBJ-NZ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:47:44 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> References: <042601c3be94$c2ff3bd0$019c9752@xp> <001d01c3be97$90ac83b0$3d1f1fac@corp.firstlink.com> <047d01c3be98$a717ff20$019c9752@xp> <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7CED48B7-2C0A-11D8-9688-000A9597E964@infinithost.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Colin Harford Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:47:36 -0700 To: Kurt Jaeger X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0 (v30, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:47:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I use a similar setting with FreeBSD 5 boxes. There is a slight change needed in the Makefile.inc1 for the install world to work. I have submitted a patch a few months ago and filled a bug report for it. #57539 What I do is, I have a devel box that tests everything, it downloads the source code, I compile the code and test it on there for a few days before transmitting it to any of the production servers. On 9-Dec-03, at 2:23 PM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > >> Which verison FreeBSD are you using ?! > > Most of the server: 4.9. Some bit-rot, we're working on it. > >> How long does it take to complate all process ?! > > For one server, if it's fairly recent: approx. 10 minutes of > person-time, approx. 1-2 hours wall-clock (compiling). > >> You mean I can make source up-to-date (cvsup) / make world process >> at this >> moment server can response to web clients ?! > > Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster) > the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of > the time, so we do it in multiuser. > > The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and > we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers. > >> Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! >> or it's >> not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD > > Good question 8-) > >> and do you test those process on other machine before apply those >> patches to >> your production server ?! > > Yes, intensivly. We first do it to our desktop systems and testservers > (approx. 40 systems) before we make the rollout to the visible servers. > > -- > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 17 > years to go ! > LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net > Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 > D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/2LvK70HXebAAFAERAkyEAJ4l0DgW7u7Qvwve0ExR4QaCZENu9gCbBXQD myW1bSTrl0JsA9mx39D0d20= =jzY0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----