From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jan 27 08:01:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA11435 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11429 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA25609 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:01:44 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Lehey Received: from freebie.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0votTg-000QaIC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 17:00 MET Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.de (8.8.4/8.6.12) id PAA11832; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:42:05 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701271442.PAA11832@freebie.lemis.de> Subject: Re: bisdn In-Reply-To: <9971.854322113@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jan 26, 97 03:41:53 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:42:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: isdn@muc.ditec.de (FreeBSD ISDN Distribution List), hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hackers) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Reply-to: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > I don't think that the problems are technical so much as political, > something which generally sucks given that the last thing the free > software community needs to be doing is shooting its feet off and > generally handing the boys at microsoft an even more overwhelming > advantage ("you can't crush us! hah! we plan to commit suicide > through sheer stupidity and ego way before we'll let that happen!" :-) > > Oh well. Sigh! :-) Well, to be fair, Gary Jennejohn replied and told me that this related to ppp, which I don't use. I think the problem there is that not many people use ppp over here, so it's not surprising that it's taking a long time. In that connection, you may be interested to know that I finally succeeded in getting a Teles card to somebody in the US who plans to use it with FreeBSD. He's a device driver engineer who works for Tandem in Austin, and I won't mention his name until I have his permission to do so, but he's a member of a startup planning to build an intelligent ISDN router. I'd guess that he will also contribute to the FreeBSD effort, which should open it up to a wider audience. I'll ask him to announce himself if he wants. Greg