From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 28 03:22:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC5C16A498 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@cruzweb.net) Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.192.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931FF43D45 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:22:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@cruzweb.net) Received: from [192.168.42.11] (c-68-61-214-252.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.61.214.252]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20060428032250m1400rsp3ue>; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:22:51 +0000 Message-ID: <44518A8C.6080905@cruzweb.net> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:22:52 -0400 From: John Cruz Organization: Cruz Web Development User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Edwards References: <33BF4116-4A55-4B03-8791-37B4B8ACEB52@antsclimbtree.com> <12AF2FD6-1149-4012-951A-84F55BB1A6F9@wisc.edu> <1CB7FDE1-DAC9-4CB5-8B22-294548AB9651@antsclimbtree.com> <4451305D.1090408@gmail.com> <133B7C75-2681-477B-BC08-1DCF129C28E4@antsclimbtree.com> In-Reply-To: <133B7C75-2681-477B-BC08-1DCF129C28E4@antsclimbtree.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" , James Riendeau Subject: Re: Intel Macs and FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: john@cruzweb.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:22:53 -0000 I didn't say it wasn't good, I just said it was an odd choice. It's not very often you hear "Mac Mini Server" thrown together. Keep us posted on how it all works out. :) Mark Edwards wrote: > The Mac Mini is fast, small, quiet, and cheap. Why is it not a good > cheap server? > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:58 PM, John Cruz wrote: > >> A mac mini is an odd machine to make into a server, but no matter. I >> doubt you'll run into any issues with installing it. Darwin is nice, >> but it was developed to be the underlying layer of the finder GUI. >> And the freeBSD ports system is so much nicer than any other nix >> install system that there's no comparison. >> >> -JOhn >> >> Mark Edwards wrote: >>> Because I want to run FreeBSD, not Darwin. This is for a server, >>> not for a desktop. I'm used to FreeBSD, and I am migrating an >>> existing machine over. >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:49 PM, James Riendeau wrote: >>> >>>> Oops. Looks like the URL changed. It is: >>>> http://opensource.apple.com/ >>>> >>>> -james >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 27, 2006, at 3:47 PM, James Riendeau wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why? Mac OS X has a complete unix freebsd-like core called darwin >>>>> ( http://www.darwin.org ). There's no reason to install freebsd >>>>> on it. Just install Mac Developer Tools (included in the >>>>> Applications folder), compile your favorite progs and go. >>>>> >>>>> James Riendeau >>>>> MMI Computer Support Technician >>>>> 1300 University Ave >>>>> Rm. 436, Dept. of MedMicro >>>>> Madison, WI 53706 >>>>> >>>>> Phone: (608) 262-3351 >>>>> After-hours Phone: (608) 260-2696 >>>>> Fax: (608) 262-8418 >>>>> Email: jtriende@wisc.edu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 27, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Mark Edwards wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know if the Intel Macs can boot and install FreeBSD, >>>>>> now that the firmware includes BIOS compatibility? Has anyone >>>>>> seen it happen? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm thinking of using a Mac Mini as a quiet living-room server. >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> --Mark Edwards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> --Mark Edwards >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> > > > -- > Mark Edwards > > > > --This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > >