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Date:      Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:22:32 -0000 (UTC)
From:      tmclaugh@sdf.lonestar.org
To:        "Ted Faber" <faber@ISI.EDU>
Cc:        FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@freebsd.org>, ports@freebsd.org, Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.20.1 available for FreeBSD
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In-Reply-To: <20071025151420.GA1451@hut.isi.edu>
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> On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 12:45:44AM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
>> On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 00:37 -0400, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> > > <snip>
>> > > You will have to talk to the mono maintainer as we didn't touch
>> > > lang/mono port at all.
>> >
>> > Not to be pushy but since gnome is one the most commonly installed
>> ports
>> > and mono is a required component shouldn't the responibility to make
>> > sure that all dependancies (even ones that are not your problem
>> > directly) build correctly?

I keep two personal machines at home for FreeBSD work.  One running 7 and
one running 6 (currently down due to disk failure) and both have a
tinderbox along with multiple jails on them.  RELENG_7 only branched
recently so I haven't even had much time to setup a FreeBSD 8 system.  I'm
not sure I will even have a FreeBSD 8 system anytime soon.  I have no more
free PCs at home and already need to purchase a new Linux box which I keep
as a reference machine.  I can scrap the FreeBSD 6 box and load FreeBSD 8
which I have thought about but that has its own issues.  Do I drop testing
on what will become a legacy branch soon even though it is still widely
used?  Mono's issues on FreeBSD have historically been thread related so
do I want to drop the last branch with libpthread?

If something breaks on a development branch it will get fixed but
typically at a slower rate.  My personal opinion is my resources are
better spent making sure ports work on production branches rather than a
development branch.  People should expect breakage in a development
branch.  They should be able to expect things work and have been
reasonably tested when using a production branch.

>> We did a lot to verify GNOME builds correctly.  Our tests were done
>> mainly on 6.X and 7.X (as 8.X is still a fairly new version).  Since
>> you're running bleeding edge code, you may run into problems.  You need
>> to report problems to the proper maintainers, and be patient.
>
> Mono has an 8.x problem as well.  I sent this patch to the maintainer
> yesterday.  It works for me, but I haven't heard back.   Folks running
> mono on -CURRENT are welcome to try it.
>
>
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Just committed the fix.  Thanks Ted.

tom

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