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Date:      Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:53:24 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r287606 - head/sys/kern
Message-ID:  <20150910175324.GW33167@funkthat.com>
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Adrian Chadd wrote this message on Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 09:18 -0700:
> On 10 September 2015 at 09:04, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10 September 2015 at 04:05, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >> > Author: adrian
> >> > Date: Thu Sep 10 04:05:58 2015
> >> > New Revision: 287606
> >> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/287606
> >> >
> >> > Log:
> >> >   Also make kern.maxfilesperproc a boot time tunable.
> >> > ...
> >> >   TODO:
> >>
> >> Also "we" should
> >> * Submit patches upstream or to the ports tree to use closefrom
> >
> >
> > I thought the consensus was that we'd fix things to have fewer FDs
> > by default, but instead allow individual processes to raise it via the
> > usual methods.
> 
> I'm looking at how to do this in a somewhat sensible fashion. Right
> now we just have openfiles=unlimited; in /etc/login.conf which seems a
> little odd. I don't know yet if that affects the default set that
> services started via /etc/rc get - init gets the whole default
> maxfilesperproc and stuff seems to inherit from that unless told
> otherwise.
> 
> I think the more sensible default would be:
> 
> * set  /etc/login.conf to some much lower values - say, 4k soft, 64k hard;
> * root can always override its settings up to kern.maxfilesperproc;
> * modify /etc/rc to set some default rlimits as appropriate;

We should probably just use the daemon class from login.conf... Do we
have a program that will set the current limits to a specified class?

> * introduce configuration options ({daemon_rlimit_XXX}?) in
> /etc/rc.conf that lets someone override what the default rlimits
> should be for a given process,, as (and I'm not making this up) if you
> run 'service XXX restart' from a root login you get the rlimits from
> the shell, which may differ from the system startup.

Why not daemon_login_class w/ the above?

> That way we can setup various services to have higher openfile limits
> via /etc/rc.conf entries for those services rather than having to hack
> each startup script. It also means that no matter what is running
> 'service XXX YYY' as root, you'll get the 'correct'(er) rlimits.

Then service would just use the above program to get sane defaults...

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