From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Dec 4 01:14:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1660E6F725 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D88A72053 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7A1C7E6F724; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C4EE6F723 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E9AD72051; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@komquats.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([96.50.22.10]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id LfKdejLrfss4TLfKeejPvy; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 18:14:05 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=JuuBlIwC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:117 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ocR9PWop10UA:10 a=iKhvJSA4AAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=1QRE_QkE_MD_IlWjurcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=odh9cflL3HIXMm4fY7Wr:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 741F11FED; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 17:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vB41E3dI037970; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 17:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id vB41E2pI037967; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 17:14:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201712040114.vB41E2pI037967@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Warner Losh cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Adrian Chadd , Cy Schubert , Hans Petter Selasky , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , Eitan Adler Subject: Re: Deprecating / Removing floppy drive support In-Reply-To: Message from Warner Losh of "Sun, 03 Dec 2017 18:01:46 -0700." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 17:14:02 -0800 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfO8jlqJ/BqgpqW/1++06Sqhzm4ABXzGflqRrMxND/LgLoWWL7csGwCnGnJY9Y53EveAq9gQIJuwNHQmsW05/6Glx4W1cy0x8xpA6oVRhItfkWA1JoY0D mbqc9lANrFZbNhwwE1uqoJrRNLUMiNvGz6LWVs+w5u4Ldp0Dv7KhK1Joh/u5E3sl5H+iPIY6HZN0Ymr81LEmHedF4wqgCjfSSqnjEPPkZUj78HNmoO4epypj M+4YwgBll2L2FuSIKXrdAMQDAv5A3FzIzWMw5EILM91OmQwpSHFSUXkiL1Pml+UKuLIKVALUQL4SnBjvnGFCAc0qIlEi6aXfurr2n8T79o8= X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 01:14:06 -0000 In message , Warner Losh writes: > --94eb2c11880a3c31df055f794380 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > I think I can net boot my data recovery/forensics system, which > > has floppy and net booted I can run 10/11 or 12 i386 and amd on it. > > > > So basically I should be able to get us some additional data points > > in short order. > > > True. We should add additional sanity / hacks to isa_dma as well. It may be > that some folks it works for, and some it fails for due to bugs in > contigmalloc that have gone undetected, or at least uncorrected. > > I have an older DELL system that I may bring up, if there's enough memory > in it to run -current. It's the least obnoxious of the old hardware that I > have knocking around. But it may be gated by finding working PATA disks > and/or that PATA <-> SD adapter I have somewhere... And of course my sandbox which has everything from 10 through 12, i386 and amd64 installed. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.