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Date:      Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:32:11 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        mitigator@gmail.com
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped /kernel ?]
Message-ID:  <20041020.093211.78703993.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <6ff30abd04102008163115a32d@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <41767CF1.2020005@FreeBSD.org> <6ff30abd04102008163115a32d@mail.gmail.com>

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In message: <6ff30abd04102008163115a32d@mail.gmail.com>
            jamie rishaw at google mail <mitigator@gmail.com> writes:
: What are the performance implications of a debug kernel?
: 
: Disk space really shouldnt even be an issue.. if it is, and its down
: to the difference of 20 megs, well, duno. 512 meg CF's going for
: sub-$50 .. the only reason i could see even a debate would be any
: significant performance hits..

So long as it can be turned off, I don't care too much.

However, I'm going going to take exception that it isn't a disk space
issue or that size doesn't matter.  Size does matter.

For a 64MB CF this would be a deal killer, and that's the size of the
parts we're using now.  With our X based systems, these cards are
starting to fill up.  In addition, we sometimes deploy new kernels to
the field and 16MB takes a lot longer to upload than 3MB (think really
bad connectivity to many of the remote locations our systems may be
deployed in).

I also have several machines where / is short on disk space, and I'd
turn it off for them.  It is simply too much extra to put on there.  I
could repartition these machines, but that's a huge pita and costs way
too much in time and down time to do.  The cost here isn't in disk
space, but the hundreds or thousands of dollars of labor and/or
opportunity costs.

Warner



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