Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:09:30 -0800 From: Burke Martin <czr@dunces.org> To: FReebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: FreeBSD issues at iServer!!! Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010301080817.00a9a920@duncette.org> In-Reply-To: <000701c0a22d$fa217aa0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> References: <3A9D55DB.603931DF@themonetgroup.com>
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If you think iServer is bad then you should deal with AT&T(Concert in Europe) Frame Relay services.... Burke At 12:59 AM 3/1/01 -0800, you wrote: >Well, Peter, as I work for an ISP that competes in one of >Verio's markets, I have an answer for you but your probably >not going to like it, nor are you going to like my recommendations >as to how to fix it. > >First of all, Iserver became unprofitable and ran out of money and >was acquired by Verio in 1998. In case you don't know this, >Iserver is a brand of Verio's, just like Oldsmobile is a brand >of General Motors. By now, any vestige of the original company has >undoubtedly long since been erased. > >Next, Verio became unprofitable and ran out of money and was >acquired by the Japanese-owned NTT Communications. > >Apparently the influx of cash from NTT hasn't helped them pull >it out, because instead of buckling down and doing some honest >work to improve themselves, they decided it was easier to file >a slimy lawsuit against register.com. You can see how dim a view the >court took of this here: > >http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article/0,1471,8471_532131,00.html > >when they issued an injunction against it - and you can see NTT/Verio's >response, which was to spam register.com customers here: > >http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article/0,,3_531911,00.html > >All in all the long and short of it is your buying hosting services >from a company that has grown far too fast for it's own good by >what appears to be deceptive marketing practices, and now your >swallowing the lie (probably engineered by them) that FreeBSD is to >blame for their troubles. > >There's plenty of other ISP's in the book that can provide rock-solid >reliable hosting services on FreeBSD, such as us, so that you don't >have to deal with a bottom-feeder virtual hosting company like NTT/Verio. >Instead of trying to get people here, many of whom work for much >better run ISP's than NTT/Verio and who are competitors of NTT/Verio, to >help NTT/Verio help you, why don't you try letting NTT/Verio know how happy >you are with their unreliable service by voting with your feet? > >Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Baitz > >Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 11:48 AM > >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG; asami@FreeBSD.ORG; dg@FreeBSD.ORG; > >jhk@FreeBSD.ORG; grog@FreeBSD.ORG; imp@FreeBSD.ORG; dfr@FreeBSD.ORG; > >msmith@FreeBSD.ORG; rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG; peter@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: FreeBSD issues at iServer!!! > > > > > >Hello, > > > >I'm not quite sure how to classify this email I am sending to you at the > >FreeBSD project site. However, I am looking for input, and wondering > >from your perspective what can be done, if anything. Perhaps you guys > >even know someone at iServer (http://www.iserver.com).... > > > >We use iServer servers for hosting web sites. They used to use BSD/OS > >and have switched over to FreeBSD and we were at first excited, but the > >excitement has become huge frustration. > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 > > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > >reserved. > >FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE (VKERN) #0: Wed Feb 21 16:54:55 MST 2001 > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >Their FreeBSD servers seem incapable of staying UP more than a handful > >or two of days, with many servers down every few days. We cannot get a > >reasonable explanation of why. We are in short very unhappy with the > >FreeBSD/OS at this time because of it. > > > >Now I know that flies in the face of the FreeBSD organization's motto of > >being built by a Board of Directors and core groups of organized people, > >leading to a stable OS. Well at iServer I have not found that to be > >true, sadly. I don't know what is wrong. Maybe you guys can set them > >straight, because it is harming the FreeBSD persona. iServer is a great > >company, but I think they need some help. > > > >Thanks! > >pb > > > >PS: Don't tell them I told you so, thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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