From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 14 20:44:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969E316A404 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB2913C4C5 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([74.56.154.114]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JL600GMBSASQBC0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:44:54 -0400 From: pj In-reply-to: <20070714103733.06ca8ad3@localhost> To: Norberto Meijome Message-id: <469935C6.1070208@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000746-2, 06/01/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <46952078.10809@videotron.ca> <8d23ec860707111323u15ba2e4td9eacad0e82c65c1@mail.gmail.com> <46959377.3080304@videotron.ca> <20070713114623.5918fc69@localhost> <4697718D.8010102@videotron.ca> <20070714003446.38cd94b0@localhost> <4697B60D.2080808@videotron.ca> <20070714103733.06ca8ad3@localhost> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Cc: Schiz0 , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to start apache22 without ssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:44:54 -0000 Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:27:41 -0400 > pj wrote: > >> Somethings isn't quite right here. >> It was suggested I load the accf_http from the /boot/loader.conf file. I >> did. So, now I removed the line from /boot/loader.conf; it is empty of >> any directives. I rebooted and accf_http.ko is no longer in the kernel - >> according to kldstat. > > man loader.conf > > Once you understand what loader.conf is for, and what a kernel module is, you > should understand what has happened. > >> ps xa | grep htt gives >> >> .... /usr/local/sbin/httpd - DNOHTTPACCEPT >> >> Something is fishy here... any thoughts? > > nothing fishy at all. read the man, read about kernel modules, read :) > >> Why me? I always seem to get these weird anomalies... :( > > sorry to break it to you, but odds are it's due to your current lack of > understanding of the system, rather than the universe poised against you :) > don't worry, it's fixable (understanding, not the universe ;) ). > > Good luck, > _________________________ > {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome > > "There are two kinds of stupid people. One kind says,'This is old and therefore > good'. The other kind says, 'This is new, and therefore better.'" > John Brunner, 'The Shockwave Rider'. > > I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. > Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been > Warned. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Well, I don't think the universe is against me. I rather think that there is a really serious lack of communications skills among many programmers. I find that often the simplest installations are overly complicated and "convoluted," if you will. For example, I have been strugglling with the installation of CUPS. For some reason the CUPS metaport would not install. I finally decided to install only the cups-base and then the configuration and implementation were child's play. No need to install gnu-ghostscript of gutenprint or any of the other stuff - I just put the ppd file for my specific printer in the cups/ppd directory, tweaked the configuration and bingo. The same for OpenOffice.org... I had to figure out a way to simplify the installation and had no need to go through 12 hours of compilation from the source code. The binary was a snap, once I figured it out. Apache22 and Samba had me confused for a while, but with a little help from the mailing list I got straightened out and it all works like a charm. But the httpd -DNOHTTPACEPT remains a mystery; after removing the loader.config entry, I rebooted, checked the kldstat, found the module no longer loaded in the kernel but the ps waux | grep httpd still came up with -DNOHTTPDACCEPT. I did not do any further tweaking or make any changes to apache22 and now it boots correctly and the -DNOHTTPDACCEPT is no longer there. Now, wouldn't you say that is weird. But then, I do admit that I do not understand the system. However, I am the greatest fan of "understanding" you could find. That's why I ask questions that may seem strange at times. BTW, my advice to programmers and, for that matter, anyone in any kind of a project - think about the end user and how he will see the results of your works, how he will use it without having the "creator's" vision. I enormously appreciate the help you and everyone who responded were able to offer. Hope I can do so for others as I grow with the system. Phil