From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 23 07:09:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C3F16A403; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B742513C455; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B632083; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:09:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on tim.des.no Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71530207E; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:09:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4710D5712; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:09:06 +0200 (CEST) From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) To: Marcel Moolenaar References: <86wt076k7u.fsf@dwp.des.no> <619464E1-1CB4-4CFC-9ECF-7FC90DC24A20@mac.com> <863b2u18hz.fsf@dwp.des.no> <4629C2FE.9030301@samsco.org> <91BC1CF6-6C72-4263-A99A-C24FC209586E@mac.com> <86irboi0ra.fsf@dwp.des.no> <3383A397-6A95-4546-841D-CF17B98A797C@mac.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:09:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3383A397-6A95-4546-841D-CF17B98A797C@mac.com> (Marcel Moolenaar's message of "Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:18:55 -0700") Message-ID: <861wibin3h.fsf@dwp.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras , freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPT as default? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:09:11 -0000 Marcel Moolenaar writes: > On Apr 22, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > > It seems to me you're suffering from second system syndrome. Forget > > points 1, 3 and 4 and focus on getting the job done and rescuing what > > credibility you have left. > > LOL > >> If g_part implements all the necessary verbs, it should only take a >> few hours to write a geom(8) plugin for it. > > Do it. Stop being an arrogant prick and put your money where your > mouth is. Your input has so far only been good for a laugh, which > doesn't really advance FreeBSD. Hell, you may actually end up > being able to tell me you told me so. It seems to me that that's > of great personal value to you. Marcel, my words may have been poorly chosen, but I've been using GPT for several years, and I've reported these issues (and others) to you several times over the course of those years and witnessed your complete lack of interest. Now you suddenly seem to realize GPT's shortcomings, but you still don't understand that the issue all along was your unwillingness or inability to follow the pattern established by our other GEOM classes. Consider further that Ivan is a SoC student working on a new FreeBSD installation and configuration tool which will offer graphical and curses interfaces to, amongst other things, disk partitioning (in fact, his mentor has asked him to focus primarily on the latter). He won't have an easy job of it if 1) there is no reliable way to configure GPT and 2) you trample all over his turf by insisting on implementing your own curses interface to g_part. I also question the wisdom of spending time on a curses interface specific to g_part when g_part is only a small piece of the GEOM puzzle. You seem hell-bent on increasing the cleft between g_gpt / g_part and our other GEOM classes. They should converge, not diverge. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no