From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 16:00:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFFB16A41F; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:00:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iang@iang.org) Received: from mf1.sonance.net (mx2.sonance.net [62.116.45.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBBE43D46; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:00:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iang@iang.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mf1.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6864A1400E; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mf1.sonance.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16493-03; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from postix.sonance.net (zentrix [192.168.0.223]) by mf1.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB1A13EC7; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postix.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCAE17B46E; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from postix.sonance.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zentrix [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24489-07; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6???1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postix.sonance.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694EA17B45C; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:52:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43539EB0.5010005@iang.org> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:53:04 +0100 From: Ian G Organization: http://iang.org/ User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050921) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters References: <200510150015.j9F0ExKr085847@sakura.ninth-nine.com> <20051015053003.GB28137@soaustin.net> <4350CE50.8080704@ebs.gr> <5739E97B-7EDC-4971-9EA5-01A44688A981@softweyr.com> <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> In-Reply-To: <1B8112AF-8C0E-4BA0-8D1C-DA6AD529F327@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at sonance.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at example.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:39:05 +0000 Cc: tux@pinguru.net, wes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-eclipse@FreeBSD.org, mitsuru@riken.jp, Norikatsu Shigemura , rtdean@cytherianage.net, sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, Mark Linimon , Panagiotis Astithas , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:00:28 -0000 (To all) Wes Peters wrote: > That's exactly the point I was (and am) trying to argue against. I > have to resort to 'make search' to find emacs tools these days because > they've been thrown all over the ports system by well-meaning but > misguided contributors, and I'd hate to see that happen to eclipse > tools too. As the directory structure imposes Big->Small naming on the ports, and this is always going to be inadequate. Many ports will have multiple namings and multiple ways of indexing that make lots of sense. The directory structure gives one indexing and one name only though. The problem is not where Eclipse or a plugin is located, rather, it is that the directory structure cannot support anything more complex than the simplest naming schemes. Moving Eclipse does not change this, only improving the search tools can help here. So what is needed is something that deals with: searchports eclipse plugin python or somesuch. iang