From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 25 04:37:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA09508 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09500 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA10221; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:38:01 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199703251238.NAA10221@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Backspace = ^H In-Reply-To: <199703251211.MAA29866@shift.lan.awfulhak.org> from Brian Somers at "Mar 25, 97 12:11:25 pm" To: brian@shift.lan.awfulhak.org (Brian Somers) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:37:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk, brian@utell.co.uk, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Brian Somers who wrote: > > In reply to Brian Somers who wrote: > > > > *SIGH*, why does this come up again and again?? > > 'cos it doesn't make sense (*stir* *stir* *stir*). Yes it does :) > > > The DEL key would send whatever the Backspace key doesn't. > > > > > > (I'd prefer BS=^?, DEL=^h) > > > > BS = BACKSPACE = 0x08 > > DEL = DELETE = 0x7f > > > > Why on earth should they be reversed contradicting their names ?? > > So that emacs' help system can work. Why would reversing them > contradict their names ? Change emacs ?? Because "back space" in ascii parlour is 0x08, and "delete" is 0x7f thats why....go check an ascii chart... > > Now, BSD then has a funny old behavior of having the std erase one > > char set to 0x7f, but thats only for hysterical reasons... > > And then it stty's it to 0x08 in roots .profile..... If people really > insist on BS=0x08 and DEL=0x7f, then so be it, but the default erase > should be changed to 0x08 too (and the stty removed from roots .profile). Well, I dont se whats wrong with changing it if one likes it another way, but we caould easily agree on the default erase char should be back space aka 0x08. This however breaks with BSD hysteria... > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team > > Even more code to hack -- will it ever end > > .. > > ARRRRGH ! I had to install metamail to reply to this ! Welcome to the modern 8 bit age :), I like to se my name spelled with the right letters :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end ..