From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 18 17:02:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B4A16A4CE; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:02:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35C643D5F; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:02:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from anne-o1dpaayth1.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.net [65.122.236.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16169; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:02:34 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050418105722.05c08490@localhost> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:02:14 -0600 To: "Steve Ames" , "Colin Percival" From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <007c01c5442f$c9a36ed0$9b00030a@officescape.net> References: <20050412213328.GC1953@lava.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050417185631.05349ee0@localhost> <200504180330.37184.danny@ricin.com> <426310A0.7060906@freebsd.org> <6.2.1.2.2.20050417202031.0490ad98@localhost> <4263280B.3010601@freebsd.org> <6.2.1.2.2.20050418020749.05761298@localhost> <002b01c5442c$d4a1caf0$9b00030a@officescape.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050418094749.057187f0@localhost> <007c01c5442f$c9a36ed0$9b00030a@officescape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will 5.4 be an "Extended Life" release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:02:45 -0000 At 10:00 AM 4/18/2005, Steve Ames wrote: >> Perhaps. But then, all of the software that recognizes "official" releases >> and does things like download ports, etc. won't work. > >It would recognize it as 4.11. Actually, it tends not to recognize it at all. If the string doesn't say "4.11-RELEASE", the software reports that ports, packages, etc. can't be found. Try installing packages with /stand/sysinstall on a snapshot and you'll see what I mean. Colin's "FreeBSD-update" seems to exhibit similar behavior. >> I am finding them both to be slower than 4.x, and am still encountering >> some quirky hangs and some ports that won't build. YMMV, of course. > >Always. Best we can do is help out by submitting detailed reports when we >encounter these quirky hangs and ports issues and, when skill allows, submit >patches to fix things. I do try. But while experimentation is fun and educational, I need, at all times, to have a "tried and true" version of the OS that I can roll out on new production servers. I'd really like that version to be 5.4, because I am building some AMD64 servers and would like to take advantage of the 64 bit support in 5.x. Speed matters, but stability takes priority. --Brett