From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 2 13:30:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E9C37B401 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C874643F93 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 19j1DG-0004aL-00; Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:34:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Terry Lambert In-Reply-To: <3F2B787D.D1C4BCAC@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Boris Kovalenko Subject: Re: bge & vlan stranges X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 20:30:02 -0000 On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: ... > I suppose you want to do this because you are trunking a channel > that goes to a border device, and for some reason you have disabled > receipt of all ICMP, instead of only abusable ICMP, and thus you > have broken end-to-end path MTU discovery. > > It would be best if you were to simply fix your ICMP. Probably wouldn't be affective anyhow. L2 switches assume that they can encapsulate 1500 byte ethernet frames into 802.1q properly. It is part of the 802.1q standard. If the NIC can't understand the frame because it is now 1504 bytes, it will be a layer 2 discard. There will be no ICMP message sent in this case. You could argue that the switch should also be configured with a 1456 byte MTU to allow for the addition of the 802.1q encapsulation. But a L2 switch is not going to send a L3 message like a ICMP "unable to fragment" fragment. So MTU detection buys you nothing. The fact of the matter is, if you use 802.1q encapsulation, the total frame size can be 1504. That is the standard. > -- Terry Tom