From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 14:42:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CE310657E8 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4190F8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:42:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Cc:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=u8vt/NlfSR4j2IFpyfp/K+0S5RZBWFbVPO2SZZysWEM=; b=a7WhleYC40wNFs21t8gpbahfzuaQRai1yddBbvTZX4LOKfkAjkCiA43Co2UqeaYojptSb2/t2n7LY9/pn/KXXnay39CkZwI+0Pju224fIigxdtb0mGrkLLYygBnO3i2W; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1T3TBf-000ErS-7h; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 09:42:43 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1345473753-41577-41576/5/80; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:42:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 09:42:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.01 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Report: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, KHOP_THREADED=-0.5 X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: jb Subject: Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:42:44 -0000 Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice we've survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very good reading for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's worth mentioning that this is snowballing quickly. I used to really like some Linux distros. I've been working closely with FreeBSD for 3 years now and after watching Linux change in those 3 years from this distance I'm not sure I want to go back. Everything that originally excited me about *nix operating systems is gone; it's a big convoluted mess now. This isn't a good sign and I hope someone has the sense enough to stand their ground and tell RedHat/Poettering "NO". TEAR DOWN THIS WALL, MR GORB^H^H^H^HPOETTERING