From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 10 17:27:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E263ECA7 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-x231.google.com (mail-qc0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A49E42D64 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id x12so2027760qcv.8 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:26:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QegusdKC5qAwY1THgwAvpqt4O09hUKGa50yia6HPF/M=; b=PPmsXVKqtYuCxbu1FH61J4FgKIhOB+TvU7XtDPpkK86613kYdTVCX+ngzJGPdobRlD 4CTOODh2+TtUpeLaoWXa2YVNZ56E76kkQ07nKWWG8L7EgjTxAyWsShEYkMbTQb0E7pBE RGCfLiVlThq+wsobXyORh6BWFHunQ+x4upyzd/3QT2BYX4xUrq58/kYxy1p2fvM8daFC R7jufHAuFeaJondC3BN1bJMJu0v7meLEoISxxh9m+Ns0ZELkxfC6N5Af7ertnd+LQBC9 Hd3uMGf2NGOfE1j3s+3cl+1DlyUP5waC8pVf7IrXIzXHh0xGA+NWiokNWEAQrDnAY0uF icsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.251.201 with SMTP id mt9mr12370811qcb.26.1381426018382; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: asomers@gmail.com Received: by 10.49.39.97 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:26:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5256E2D5.4060101@allanjude.com> References: <5256B761.4050301@gmail.com> <1381421583.19140.32451849.084D8E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5256E2D5.4060101@allanjude.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:26:58 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: k5TygSMEq4i7J3Kpj5MQxTzuFcA Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 and zfsd From: Alan Somers To: Allan Jude Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 17:27:00 -0000 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2013-10-10 12:13, Mark Felder wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 10:24, Alan Somers wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Johan Hendriks >>> wrote: >>>> When i started using ZFS on FreeBSD I quickly found out that hot spares are >>>> not possible on FreeBSD. >>>> I was told that with zfsd it should be possible and that it would be >>>> included in FreeBSD 10. >>>> >>>> Is there some info about the zfsd function and how it could be used? >>> zfsd is currently not in FreeBSD/head and won't make it into 10, but >>> you can still get the source code from its project branch. It's being >>> used in production by at least two companies. >>> >> So FreeBSD is going to have inferior ZFS management compared to >> Solaris/Illumos/etc for another 2+ years? Why are things like this >> allowed to miss releases? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ZFSd was a big topic of discussion at the EuroBSDCon 2013 dev summit (3 > weeks ago). There is a lot of collaboration going on, to bring in some > work done by vendors like SpectraLogics. This is the type of feature > that can be assed in 10.1, it won't have to wait for 11. > > You can see Robert Watsons talk "How FreeBSD Works" to see why releases > are based on date, rather than on feature completion (because things are > never "finished") > > > > -- > Allan Jude > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Due to popular demand, I have located a round toit. I'm currently working on rebasing the zfsd project branch to head, after which I'll push SpectraLogic's recent changes.