From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Apr 10 06:58:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B1B2B4A69 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48z83k2rqdz4tTB for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 61D712B4A68; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619C82B4A67 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48z83j16qZz4tT9 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0319D1AF12F; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 03A6w04g089526 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:00 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 03A6vxsX089525; Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:57:59 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Yuri Pankov cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=c3=b8l?= , Gary Jennejohn , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildkernel failure because ctfconvert not installed In-reply-to: <9f03fb79-a0ad-3c11-9a50-bc7731882da9@fastmail.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20200408083204.4a2d6dbc@ernst.home> <814e8e7d-68e6-bead-481b-21c5552583c4@FreeBSD.org> <20200409093346.1aec1bba@ernst.home> <20200409105626.386b0ba5@ernst.home> <9f03fb79-a0ad-3c11-9a50-bc7731882da9@fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <89523.1586501879.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:57:59 +0000 Message-ID: <89524.1586501879@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48z83j16qZz4tT9 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of phk@critter.freebsd.dk designates 130.225.244.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=phk@critter.freebsd.dk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.92 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.04)[ip: (0.06), ipnet: 130.225.0.0/16(0.08), asn: 1835(0.09), country: EU(-0.01)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[fastmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 06:58:11 -0000 -------- In message <9f03fb79-a0ad-3c11-9a50-bc7731882da9@fastmail.com>, Yuri Panko= v writes: >Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:56+0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: >> = >>> OK, I figured it out. >>> >>> I used to have MK_CTF=3Dno in src.conf, but I recently changed it to >>> WITH_CTF=3Dno. >> = >> It's either WITH_xxx=3Dyes or WITHOUT_xxx=3Dyes. > >Or even WITH_xxx=3D or WITHOUT_xxx=3D, src.conf(5) explicitly states that= = >value is NOT checked: > >The values of variables are ignored regardless of their setting; even if = > they would be set to "FALSE" or "NO". The presence of an option = >causes it to be honored by make(1). That is not even close to POLA-compliance... Obviously negative values ("false", "no") should either be reported as errors or preferably be respected. PS: [This is not the bikeshed you are looking for] = -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .