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Date:      Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:31:06 -0500
From:      The Anarcat <anarcat@anarcat.dyndns.org>
To:        Bart Matthaei <bart@dreamflow.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-security@rikrose.net, security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Best security topology for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <20011121173105.GA44370@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011121181929.A15275@heresy.dreamflow.nl>
References:  <7052044C7D7AD511A20200508B5A9C585169B6@MAGRAT> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0111211653410.8343-100000@pkl.net> <20011121181929.A15275@heresy.dreamflow.nl>

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On Wed Nov 21, 2001 at 06:19:29PM +0100, Bart Matthaei wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 05:01:15PM +0000, freebsd-security@rikrose.net wr=
ote:
> > Basically, ipfw doesn't give as much control over the packets and
> > filtering as ipfilter, so use both.
>=20
> Care to explain why ?

For this I don't know. I thought both had the same capabilities too.

> I think ipfw/ipf handle packets just as well..

Agreed.

> The only thing i recall is a story about ipfw sending packets trough
> userland (?!). But thats just a vague story i've read somewhere.

It's not a vague story. *In order to do NAT*, you must send packets to
the natd daemon, using a divert rule. ipf doesn't need that, as there is
a ipnat kernel module to replace natd.

a.


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