From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Feb 19 0:34:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B1737B41A; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter3.wemm.org ([12.232.27.13]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020219083407.UTPL2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@peter3.wemm.org>; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:34:07 +0000 Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g1J8Y6s36011; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:34:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B351E3A9A; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:34:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Matthew Dillon , Robert Watson , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: John Balwdin's proc-locking patch In-Reply-To: <20020219070428.GF12136@elvis.mu.org> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:34:06 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020219083406.B351E3A9A@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Matthew Dillon [020218 22:27] wrote: > > > It is totally unecessary to accumulate so many easily-made-incremental > > changes off-tree and, in fact, I believe it to be detrimental to the > > project. It locks up large areas of code for long periods of time > > and creates both a synchronization hassle (even with P4) and a > > debugging nightmare when finally committed due to the sheer number > > of changes involved. > [snip] > > > > That is my position. > > I've felt the same way for a while. Nobody is disputing that. It would have been better if John had committed it piecemeal, but it didn't work out that way. I doubt he'll fall for this trap again. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message