From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 14 7:42:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B0F37B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f11.hotmail.com [216.32.181.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AA143E31 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 07:42:10 -0700 Received: from 24.196.232.182 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 14:42:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.196.232.182] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Upcoming 4.6.1 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:42:10 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2002 14:42:10.0571 (UTC) FILETIME=[A29C2DB0:01C22B44] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I felt that if you went through the trouble of creating a 'release' then you should check to see what is important to upgrade and what is not. The main thing is that a 'point' or minor release (e.g. v4.6.x.x not v4.x or major releases (v4.0 vs v5.0), usually doesn't do a port/package sweep of upgrades (time-consuming to some). I was told to ask for the major stuff now before v4.7-R. The ATA patches and other "can't live without" patches are within reason of time to implement. Changing the ports/packages whenever the wind blows can be time consuming if not managed correctly (imagine all those dependencies to monitor too). Even Sun has a hard time keeping Solaris up to date with all those patches to the OS (bi-monthly) and Sun PAYS their engineers/developers to do that. You deal with Sol8 10/01 vs. Sol8 02/02 and all those bi-monthly patches in-between. I've focused my attention on only the 'first' ISO image and whatever is on that disc. Then, I've focused on the snapshot images and ONLY what I see on those discs. I talked about OpenSSH, OpenSSL, tar, and perl since these are on the snapshot images as well as Xfree86 (5.0 put perl in port/packages and off the main snapshot). The ATA patch is one of those higher priority list items as well as a kernel crash issue. I made a request for people to go through usr/bin and any other bin command just to see if an update is needed. Just my wooden nickels... -K _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message