From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 12 21:39:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF6516A403 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grtodd@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151A843D46 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:39:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grtodd@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so2165702wxd for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:39:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=ti3TDxDyRv6lnwbzppxd+2SHsq04s6OO5jqxWfx3vgjfhXr8bpDgbjjLDk1QYL90uA2qPxhfbyHGOJ6KM1mDReZpYBvnXjkFOSo4gZDqYaBt+DohWvxzOr8L1O3k/wH9YyznWk3O1fV0HwYFLVDiJLhzh7E/1px17yuOGg6cORQ= Received: by 10.70.72.11 with SMTP id u11mr9098699wxa; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.10.10.24? ( [198.62.158.205]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h36sm7244297wxd.2006.09.12.14.39.24; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <45072910.7040008@bellanet.org> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:39:28 -0400 From: Graham Todd User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <200609121102.12577.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <200609121141.09204.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <4506F6DF.5010900@cs.okstate.edu> <4506FE59.6000600@errno.com> <45070021.3000606@protected-networks.net> <20060912195208.GB4099@tirith.brixandersen.dk> <45072272.5040606@bellanet.org> In-Reply-To: <45072272.5040606@bellanet.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "G. Robert Todd" Subject: Re: FreeBSD inquire X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:39:26 -0000 gaak - just realized I am way OT here. Sorry Graham Todd wrote: > Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 02:44:49PM -0400, Michael Butler wrote: >>> Is this as a consequence of the manufacturers paranoia that open-source >>> developers won't comply with wifi regulatory requirements (i.e. channel >>> and power restrictions by country) or some other reason? (not that you >>> can't just plug in any other card into the pcmcia slot ..), >> It's not manufacturers paranoia - it a requirement from the FCC (among >> others) that radio control must not take place in user-accessible >> software. > > How does the FCC define a "user" I wonder? Is there a difference > between the "user" of software installed on a laptop and the user of the > included hardware and radio equipment that develops said software. > > Does someone who writes a loadable kernel module that accesses radio > hardware so that "user" applications can access the Internet have to > assure the regulator of compliance in some way? > > It seems like an engineer to engineer sort of matter that might require > lawyer to lawyer interaction :-\ -- Graham Todd - bellanet.org 613.236.6163 #2443