From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 4 21: 4:21 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 4 21:04:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from larry.compuage.com (larry.compuage.com [208.233.246.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480DB37B400 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.233.247.37] (unverified [208.233.247.37]) by larry.compuage.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.179) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:52:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:04:04 -0500 (EST) From: Kelly Hendrix Sender: root@root.hendrix.net To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Cliff Sarginson , The Hermit Hacker , Suresh Ramasubramanian , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: If you come only once, you've been cheated. In-Reply-To: <20010104170103.A95679@mithrandr.moria.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to freebsd.org: FREEBSD-IPFW IP Firewall This is the forum for technical discussions concerning the redesign of the IP firewall code in FreeBSD. This is a technical mailing list for which strictly technical content is expected. I subscribe to freebsd-ipfw and there hasn't been any traffic for several days. Maybe if they would change the charter a bit or create a new mailing list, as suggested by a few subscribed to questions, the amount of traffic would be noticeably reduced. With the proliferation of cable and DSL services, and the amount of home users setting up LAN's and needing firewall/nat advice, perhaps this is the right time to create such a list. Just my .02 worth. Kelly On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:01:03 +0200 > From: Neil Blakey-Milner > To: Cliff Sarginson > Cc: The Hermit Hacker , > Suresh Ramasubramanian , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: If you come only once, you've been cheated. > > On Thu 2001-01-04 (14:58), Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > > On Thu 2001-01-04 (09:04), The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > > It can't be a closed list. Think about it - it is for people who have > > > > > questions. The people who are subscribed are interested in answering > > > > > questions, or seeing questions and answers. > > > > > > > > Odd, every one of the PostgreSQL mailing lists are closed lists and are > > > > reasonably high traffic ... we even have a bi-directional news<->mail > > > > gateway ... > > > > > > Does it also have like 300 mails a day? Are there people really willing > > > to subscribe for a few minutes, then post, then hurry to unsubscribe to > > > prevent a mail flood? > > > > > > The questions@FreeBSD.org mail address is on countless pages, and > > > there's no possible reason we'd want to bog someone or a group of people > > > down for up to 50 or 75 or 100 approvals a day due to getting spam once > > > every few days. It's very important to be inclusive and accessible to > > > our users, and to have the costs of getting help as low as possible. > > > > I agree with that sentiment. > > However I also think that the traffic on this list is almost unmanageably > > high, and a suggestion made the other day that a list specifically for > > nat/ipfw and relatives be made should be seriously considered. A huge > > proportion of mail is on these subjects. > > freebsd-ipfw exists already. > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message