From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 27 16:19:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9588416A4E5 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal4.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E3343D4C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id FXU24120; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:19:20 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 3D47945042; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:19:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Christopher Hilton In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:46 EDT." <700E4D69-659D-4AB1-B31A-30E0906EF4B1@vindaloo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:19:19 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060727161919.3D47945042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Notebook recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:19:25 -0000 > From: Christopher Hilton > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:50:46 -0400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > Well, my notebook was stolen last night so after 3 years with my > Gateway it's time get something new. I'm looking for recommendations. > The features I'm looking for are: > > > XGA graphics at a minimum of 1280 pixels horizontal and 960 > pixels vertical. 1400x1050 is perfect > > Pentium M processor for battery life 1.6 GHz ~ 2.0 GHz > > Ability to do 3D Video acceleration would be a plus but isn't > strictly necessary. XDAMAGE would be a double plus. > > A real serial port is a plus as I occasionally have to boot the > odd sun workstation. > > Any suggestions are welcome. I have not specific recommendations, just some things to be aware of. Many new laptops have High Definition Audio (HDA) which is not yet supported by FreeBSD (although several driver patches have been floated that work on some systems and not others). Get at least a Pentium-M or, better still, a Core-Duo. Much better performance and battery life than older Intel chips. I have no experience with AMDs in laptops, but I believe the newer Turions might be pretty reasonable, too. The odds of a working modem are pretty slim. Wireless is also a problem as many systems including any with "Centrino" A/B/G support are probably Intel 3945ABGs which are currently unsupported. Most laptops that are ordered (as opposed to bought at a store) are available with Atheros wireless which works very well. b/g cards are often supported by iwi which requires at least -stable to have a good chance of working properly. Other common wireless cards are Broadcom which can usually be cajoled into working with ndis. Serial is often available on "port replicators" or mini-docks, but is very rare on the base unit. USB-Serial devices work well and are fairly cheap (about $25US.) Graphics can be a problem. DRI can be especially difficult on newer systems. Radeon is pretty well supported, but you need to install radeontool from ports to deal with turning the display on and off. nVidia support is a bit less stable and often VESA mode seems to be the only good way to use them. In general newer laptops are likely to work best with -stable or -current, but current is NOT for the faint of heart. It just gets new device support sooner than -stable. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751