From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 28 16:11:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97D637B420 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DBD9786E3; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:41:00 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:41:00 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD have a problem with some AMD processors? Message-ID: <20011229104100.H48518@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20011228181009.F95692@monorchid.lemis.com> <20011228133613.D25749@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20011228190613.GB1122@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20011228190613.GB1122@raggedclown.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 28 December 2001 at 20:06:13 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 01:36:13PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 06:10:09PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> I've been using AMD processors almost exclusively in my main work >>> machines for over 4 years, and I've been very happy with them. I'm >>> currently running a K6/233, a K6/333, an Athlon 750, a Duron 850 and >>> an Athlon XP 1700. Last August, though, I bought a machine which gave >>> me a lot of trouble, the Duron 850 mentioned above. I found that it >>> would freeze for no apparent reason. I established that it wasn't the >>> memory by taking the memory of another machine and running it like >>> that; it made no difference. I ended up also changing the motherboard >>> and the processor, but the hangs continued. I could expect a hang >>> within 8 hours when doing 'make release' >> >> What I noticed for socketA boards is that they tend to be extremely picky >> about the memory you feed them. And this is not an ElCheapo mainboard, >> this is an Asus. Asus is my experience has good mainboards. >> All sorts of weird crashes, sometimes only after hours of buildworld-stress >> testing. Keeping everything else the same but swapping the memory >> solved the issue once and for all. > > I believe there is also an issue with some of the high-end Athlons > running very hot. Co-incidentally I noticed in a local computer shop the > other day a warning about using the right coolers for AMD processors. Yes, I've been bitten by this before. > Next time it goes AWOL see what the Bios thinks the temperature is > (if it has that possibility in it, mine does). Someone on a linux > list I am on was reporting temperatures >100C !! Once it hangs, the temperature probably drops again. In my experience, processors lose their minds at a little over 60°. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message