From owner-freebsd-current Wed Oct 29 02:12:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA06870 for current-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:12:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com (mail.trw.dk [195.8.133.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06865 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.dk.tfs.com [140.145.230.252]) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06396; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:11:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01128; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:10:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bad system call - world build In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:29:21 PST." <199710290929.BAA14235@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:10:37 +0100 Message-ID: <1126.878119837@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199710290929.BAA14235@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>, Satoshi Asami write s: > * I'm sorry Satoshi-san, then people should install a 3.X snap on > * a client, NFS mount their diskspace and make world that way. > >That always worked, but it is horrendously slow. Besides, how about >"make release"? Doesn't that thing build a target world on the host >system? And wouldn't that work over NFS as well ? You lost me... >You just made life very >hard for people to upgrade, as well as negating a large part of my few >month's work of work. I just wastly improve the speed of getcwd(), yes. Are you trying to stop progress in the name of transisition ? I can't see any reason why make world should need to run any program that is linked to the newly compiled libc... And in that respect I think that most of your work is headed the wrong direction... >I'm trying to fix it. If you are just going to try to justify why you >broke that, there is no need for that. (That's why I said "I don't >want to point fingers.") If you are not willing to help, just say so, >and I won't bother you again. I'm very willing to help, but only if we attack the correct problem: "How can I compile my FreeBSD sources on a foreign platform". rather than "How do I avoid the most obvious problems compiling on an outdated FreeBSD system". I actually belive that cross-compiling is better than native compiling because you cannot make the kind of shortcuts that way which is giving us trouble now. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."