From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Dec 12 14:39:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E351D39A0 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 14:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x82d.google.com (mail-qt1-x82d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47YbzB5FF1z3Dlw for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 14:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x82d.google.com with SMTP id k40so747008qtk.8 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 06:39:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7NYJGzqkdHZ9mC2doomSqQ+RvDN/ymmX1c/t4jzNppE=; b=J8hACpm8L2u0QQ8qRgPaoDVhfs3lm0J/XqDngHHfIHRRKq573Sr+7VMBVUj50aYrYG rpbsPP56AFo6MHGS3s6rNIGkMbUdq/4IzUDIdrxq7eZAo4bp2gkbw2w8h+BCJGobPFFV gph6xqJEDn6T9FkyZ0pIWP0MS8Aprvx3Kt7UdoWZyCZauw99EwT0+TMEX324ZJE43mcN qwPBJ7VBX/DnxtnG9GUyp7r36bY+Dn8AYPnwtYKFq0YLCiBKorlOvUp1rtWDbsFvGOvn DURRGHHhqqxxc2VQhP6eCvDIkyFl03+/atkRzE0h7gjNt5ZIA8DZh4dFKJr4ogKxL/8n f0Kg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7NYJGzqkdHZ9mC2doomSqQ+RvDN/ymmX1c/t4jzNppE=; b=XSuDKSxYTED+5wLANiaUK4vHXQsCE8n9Jfb1o14OdJpecayQZkhysHDUxaMCI4Rszc A3UEZ9jXyZ36d2b6+VohoB1YcIhWbQfSgESFVO5RF6VdMzqI7rHGjZlFZW8T5Llfr9kd FMi8M4EeH8WITsXa/13xN0Ja281LL5J//2NQruevDdYm+MSaft2NozmzNVp3JhLt/y35 DnGFOwbaY9M7jf6qwMtOV2KNsHoRSK5lU3Pok1zrSndxu5Zwm3c2hzQx/dP42JwLAD1a fiID6BGdB2xx5EK7l8X0nVpDwak5GKzLKXwnWqYVp/m/vCopNGMJi4jkWsU2FY5fa2me CPrg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVP4MPZuxYwArvMjKKamrSy44PTli/H08i3Rsgtb+Z7h/zjBhoh +KWf/wpJryyuLwR0Cicr0PXR0qsv28pk/7HQL9lMGg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwxNQut5KBuY83RaWsZP9UbB207Qu+FZzLDR8cMVqC4yxOraaXTZ46vdJf5qV+9cxS875sNi6bzXDsF67RIeqw= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:74cb:: with SMTP id j11mr7313525qtr.32.1576161557275; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 06:39:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51AD9B50-9488-45CE-878F-EE97F6914E49@freebsd.org> <201912121119.xBCBJ2Jo017249@fire.js.berklix.net> <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 07:39:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility To: Lars Engels Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , FreeBSD Hackers , Devin Teske X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47YbzB5FF1z3Dlw X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=J8hACpm8; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82d) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[21]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.71)[ip: (-9.35), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.21), asn: 15169(-1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 14:39:19 -0000 On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 6:08 AM Lars Engels wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:19:01PM +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Devin Teske wrote: > > > I???d like to announce a new utility/library for FreeBSD base > available for review. > > > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16132 > > > > > > > Preview HTML-formatted manuals: > > > https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.1.html > > > > https://fraubsd.org/doc/cmb.3.html > > > > > ... etc. > > > > It cost pain & disputes forcing other code from src/ to ports/ , > > despite which src/ has bloated. No more bloat please. > > It's no bloat: > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 23K Dec 12 14:04 /usr/bin/cmp > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 29K Dec 12 14:04 > /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/cmp.debug > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1.9K Dec 12 14:04 /usr/share/man/man1/cmp.1.gz > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 151B Dec 12 14:04 > /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/Kyuafile > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2.3K Dec 12 14:04 > /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2.6K Dec 12 14:04 > /usr/tests/usr.bin/cmp/cmp_test2 > > > Given that on embedded systems debug, kyua and man pages are usually not > installed, cmp(1) adds just 23 kB to the image. > Cmb and cmp are different things. Cmb is not yet in the system. But I'm with Julian on this one: this hasn't been socialized, seems auxiliary to our needs and could better be served as a port. There might be good arguments to include it, but I've not yet seen them clearly articulated yet. 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