From owner-freebsd-security Wed Oct 13 23:43: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3a123.neo.rr.com [24.93.180.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925001519C for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:42:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA20001; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 02:42:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 02:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: James Wyatt Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeSSH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > >actually, i don't think this is a good idea. there are still a few (very > > > >few.. i hope) networks and LAN's that use UUCP for mail transfer and such. > > > > Why are you hoping for very few users of UUCP? It works quite well, and is > > very low maintance. People who have intermittant connectivity have good > > reason to still use it. I use it in a couple instances over FTP, because it > > has spooling and logging facilities built in. (This really should move to -net or something...) If we're going to entertain the idea of making UUCP a port, we should entertain the idea of replacing it with something equally suited to moving files over a modem, and FTP+PPP doesn't qualify -- too many points of failure. I hate to admit it, but C-Kermit comes to mind. You need to have SOMETHING in there that lets you do two key things - move files, and talk directly to a serial port. Minicom works, but it relies on also having zmodem, etc. installed as well. As the maintainer of 200+ FreeBSD/Linux/Coherent (yuk!) systems spread across northern Ohio in the harshest environments I've ever seen, (nursing homes -- they make steel mills look clean :) ), having these gut-level utilities as part of a base install is really handy when some patient pours his calcium-and-sugar-rich dietary supplement into the power supply fan... Not to mention that Coherent doesn't do TCP/IP (but they DID finally get X working before they went under...:) ) mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message