Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2022 13:15:35 +0200 From: egoitz@ramattack.net To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Desperate with 870 QVO and ZFS Message-ID: <4e98275152e23141eae40dbe7ba5571f@ramattack.net>
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--=_bd91ad01df27068b5d25c9b898f7c3df Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_044aea7dd22a9f76a92b49bbdb55310b" --=_044aea7dd22a9f76a92b49bbdb55310b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Good morning, I write this post with the expectation that perhaps someone could help me I am running some mail servers with FreeBSD and ZFS. They use 870 QVO (not EVO or other Samsung SSD disks) disks as storage. They can easily have from 1500 to 2000 concurrent connections. The machines have 128GB of ram and the CPU is almost absolutely idle. The disk IO is normally at 30 or 40% percent at most. The problem I'm facing is that they could be running just fine and suddenly at some peak hour, the IO goes to 60 or 70% and the machine becomes extremely slow. ZFS is all by default, except the sync parameter which is set disabled. Apart from that the ARC is limited to 64GB. But even this is extremely odd. The used ARC is near 20GB. I have seen, that meta cache in arc is very near to the limit that FreeBSD automatically sets depending on the size of the ARC you set. It seems that almost all ARC is used by meta cache. I have seen this effect in all my mail servers with this hardware and software config. I do attach a zfs-stats output, but from now that the servers are not so loaded as described. I do explain. I run a couple of Cyrus instances in these servers. One as master, one as slave on each server. The commented situation from above, happens when both Cyrus instances become master, so when we are using two Cyrus instances giving service in the same machine. For avoiding issues, know we have balanced and we have a master and a slave in each server. You know, a slave instance has almost no io and only a single connection for replication. So the zfs-stats output is from now we have let's say half of load in each server, because they have one master and one slave instance. As said before, when I place two masters in same server, perhaps all day works, but just at 11:00 am (for example) the IO goes to 60% (it doesn't increase) but it seems like if the IO where not being able to be served, let's say more than a limit. More than a concrete io limit (I'd say 60%). I don't really know if, perhaps the QVO technology could be the guilty here.... because... they say are desktop computers disks... but later... I have get a nice performance when copying for instance mailboxes from five to five.... I can flood a gigabit interface when copying mailboxes between servers from five to five.... they seem to perform.... Could anyone please shed us some light in this issue?. I don't really know what to think. Best regards, --=_044aea7dd22a9f76a92b49bbdb55310b Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_c643a5b1c3a123a0b3bc0c046160d9bb" --=_c643a5b1c3a123a0b3bc0c046160d9bb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset= =3DUTF-8" /></head><body style=3D'font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,Gen= eva,sans-serif'> <article id=3D"js-XFUniqueId61" class=3D"message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div class=3D"bbWrapper">Good morning,<br /> <br /> I write this post with = the expectation that perhaps someone could help me <img class=3D"smilie smi= lie--sprite smilie--sprite1" title=3D"Smile :)" src=3D"cid:d89746888da2d= 9510b64a9f031eaecd5@ramattack.net" alt=3D":)" data-shortname=3D":)" /><br /= > <br /> I am running some mail servers with FreeBSD and ZFS. They use 870 = QVO (not EVO or other Samsung SSD disks) disks as storage. They can easily = have from 1500 to 2000 concurrent connections. The machines have 128GB of r= am and the CPU is almost absolutely idle. The disk IO is normally at 30 or = 40% percent at most.<br /> <br /> The problem I'm facing is that they could= be running just fine and suddenly at some peak hour, the IO goes to 60 or = 70% and the machine becomes extremely slow. ZFS is all by default, except t= he sync parameter which is set disabled. Apart from that the ARC is limited= to 64GB. But even this is extremely odd. The used ARC is near 20GB. I have= seen, that meta cache in arc is very near to the limit that FreeBSD automa= tically sets depending on the size of the ARC you set. It seems that almost= all ARC is used by meta cache. I have seen this effect in all my mail serv= ers with this hardware and software config.<br /> <br /> I do attach a zfs-= stats output, but from now that the servers are not so loaded as described= =2E I do explain. I run a couple of Cyrus instances in these servers. One a= s master, one as slave on each server. The commented situation from above, = happens when both Cyrus instances become master, so when we are using two C= yrus instances giving service in the same machine. For avoiding issues, kno= w we have balanced and we have a master and a slave in each server. You kno= w, a slave instance has almost no io and only a single connection for repli= cation. So the zfs-stats output is from now we have let's say half of load = in each server, because they have one master and one slave instance.<br /> = <br /> As said before, when I place two masters in same server, perhaps all= day works, but just at 11:00 am (for example) the IO goes to 60% (it doesn= 't increase) but it seems like if the IO where not being able to be served,= let's say more than a limit. More than a concrete io limit (I'd say 60%)= =2E<br /> <br /> I don't really know if, perhaps the QVO technology could b= e the guilty here.... because... they say are desktop computers disks... bu= t later... I have get a nice performance when copying for instance mailboxe= s from five to five.... I can flood a gigabit interface when copying mailbo= xes between servers from five to five.... they seem to perform....<br /> <b= r /> Could anyone please shed us some light in this issue?. 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