Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 21:01:08 -0700 From: Patrick Powell <papowell@astart.com> To: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> Cc: Koop Mast <kwm@rainbow-runner.nl>, "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <x11@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails Message-ID: <53B8CA04.7000400@astart.com> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1s17LhJvPKf6R-ZPQNKy3DNaGGpfmQ_kSkXzZaHQACroA@mail.gmail.com> References: <53B6D2CE.1090604@astart.com> <CAN6yY1twB6J=8WKThkdF=fV26MWpRgr28HKFgAKzK3E1gw2k9Q@mail.gmail.com> <53B6FA75.6020302@astart.com> <CAN6yY1vdfmhFGKOGpZKidg2bVHq0o5sm4wNfA_Q=g0aJq1JRSw@mail.gmail.com> <53B71B56.5070009@rainbow-runner.nl> <53B735A6.7090803@astart.com> <CAN6yY1s17LhJvPKf6R-ZPQNKy3DNaGGpfmQ_kSkXzZaHQACroA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 07/04/14 16:28, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell <papowell@astart.com > <mailto:papowell@astart.com>> wrote: > > On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote: > > [...] > > On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > This discussion begs the question of why won't > WITH_NEW_XORG work for you? > I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no > support in recent > Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as > time passes, the bit > rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. > > I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the > failure you see > WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, > /etc/src.conf and > any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and > might not). x11@ > is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X > issues. > > I should also recommend that, if you have not already > tried, move your > Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is > very rare to > require a full configuration these days. Most only need > things for added > fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is > only about 27 lines > long and mostly added fonts. > > ports/UPDATING states: > 20140218: > AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 > AUTHOR: kde@FreeBSD.org > > KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, > kdenetwork, kdesdk, > and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes. > > KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires > modern > Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update > Xorg ports > to newer version follow instructions at > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > > So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. > > -Koop > > Ahhh!!! I missed that. > > If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the > PKGNG repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG? > Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications. > > OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses > WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support > and one with WITH_NEW_XORG which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4 > support. > > I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't > recall the outcome. > > > Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories > were available a few hours ago. > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce > > The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64. > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com <mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com> Huzzah! Hurrah.... Ummm... hold on a bit here... No 8.4 support? Why not just toss it in, with the usual: Warning! Here there be dragons. Or at least untested and verified packages. These have been compiled with make.conf containing: MAKE_NEW_XORG=yes At least doing this will provide KDE4 packages in an easy to access fashion. As for the XORG support, this seems to work fine for me as well, so I do not need compatibility with the old drivers... Yes, yes... sloth.
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