Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 21:39:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak <fpawlak@execpc.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Cc: dshanes@personalogic.com, brett@lariat.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Message-ID: <199804100239.VAA23365@darkstar.connect.com> In-Reply-To: <3980.892169423@time.cdrom.com>
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"Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> wrote:
> I was told by Eric Raymond (whom I met briefly at the Mozilla party)
> that the *BSD people were deliberately excluded because there were too
> many BSDs and they didn't want to get involved in any political issues
> over it. I find these continuous allegations of the BSD world being
> gratuitously and needlessly "split" (even though each *BSD seeks to
> fill a different niche) by the Linux community to be rather tiresome
> considering the amount of division in their own ranks and can only see
> this as something of a double standard, but I've long since given up
> on any hope of fair play from this particular crowd.
>
> This and several other incidents of a similar nature has pretty much
> convinced me that this crowd would rather prefer it if we really
> didn't exist at all and is going to essentially conduct their
> operations as if we didn't. Oh well. Perhaps it *IS* time to go on
> the PR offensive here ("Why Linux doesn't work") since playing nice
> guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice comments
> from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is the
> only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's
> going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS community
> to get our own message out, maybe it's time.
>
> Jordan
Amen!! From what you say, the time appears to have come. There are
enough of them to eat us alive it we sit on our buts and just observe.
A kick ass attitude can be a very good thing if things are indeed as you
say they are. I am no politician, but that appears to be what is going
on here. In that case the more noise and fsck you the better. Stake
our ground and strut our stuff.
Frank
>
> > To All,
> > This is the message that I sent Tim O'Reilly, the founder of
> O'Reilly
> > and Associates. Next I will send you his response.
> >
> > David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Shanes <dshanes@personalogic.com>
> > To: tim@oreilly.com <tim@oreilly.com>
> > Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 11:45 AM
> > Subject: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"
> >
> >
> > >Mr. O'reilly,
> > > I applaud ORA's endorsement of Open Source software. It is a
> huge step
> > >to gather together the "forefathers" of some of the most popular
> and stable
> > >software in use on the Internet today.
> > > Personally, I use FreeBSD and was wondering if there was any
> particular
> > >reason that the developers of FreeBSD were not included in your
> "Freeware
> > >Summit".
> > > FreeBSD has much to offer over Linux and has a huge
> developer/user
> > base,
> > >including Yahoo! and CDROM.COM.
> > >
> > >Sincerely,
> > >David Shanes
> > >_____________________________________________________
> > >David Shanes 7535 Metropolitan
> Drive
> > >dshanes@personalogic.com San Diego, CA 92108
> > >Database Developer (619) 220-5800 x228
> > >PersonaLogic, Inc. (619) 220-5899 (fax)
> > >http://www.PersonaLogic.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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